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Posted Aug 21 2007 - 11:38 AM:
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this is a list of my top ten favorite movies of all time (subject to change on a whim, of course - very difficult to narrow it down to ten!):

the others - suspense thriller with nicole kidman as a woman coming to terms with some otherworldly circumstances

the english patient - anthony minghella's epic drama about love and war

raise the red lantern - zhang yimou's best film, in my opinion. creepy & very reminiscent of hitchcock. breathtaking aesthetic (always the case with zhang yimou)

groove - the san francisco rave scene as i remember it

serenity - one of the best sci-fi movies ever. based on the t.v. show firefly, starring the original cast

down in the valley - a modern day western; my favorite edward norton movie

crouching tiger, hidden dragon - my favorite ang lee

point break - a story about some bankrobber surfers. my favorite action film. also, i love movies where the ocean is like a character in the story ("cast away" is another example, also "finding nemo". oh, and "titanic")

run lola run - a story about learning to trust your intuition (among other things). killer soundtrack

sex and lucia - the queen of all allegories

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anyone have any top tens to share? can be movies, books, music, whatever.

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Posted Aug 21 2007 - 01:53 PM:
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Top Ten Movies, as of 21.08.2007:


1. The Razor's Edge (1946), based on W. Sommerset Maugham's book of the same name. One man seeks spiritual solace in the post WW I world. Feat. Tyrone Power.

2. The Wicker Man (1971), feat. Edward Woodward. An uright Christian copper flys to a remote scottish island to search for a girl reported missing, only to uncover a resurgance of paganism among its populants.

3. X: The Unknown (1956). A strange, seemingly intelligent oil emerges from an army artillery range in northern Scotland to wreak havoc on the nearby town.

4. Dancer in the Dark (2000), feat. Bjork. A single mother stuggles to raise her child while losing her sight.

5. The Lost Highway (1997), by David Lynch. A man journeys through time and space on the long, dark highway to eternity. Feat. Bill Pullman and an totally hot Patricia Arquette.

6. Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970). "My God...its a city of...APES!"

7. Half-Baked (1998). Chapelle's pot culture movie is a riot.

8. Enter the Ninja (1981). An American GI trained in Japan exacts vengence when criminals kill his friend in the Phillipines.

9. Seems Like Old Times (1980), feat. Chevy Chase and Goldy Hawn. Hijinx ensue when Chase, a writer accused of armed robbery shows up on the District Attourney's (Charles Grodin) doorstep to seek help from ex-wife and public defender, Hawn, also the DA's wife.

10. Transformers: The Movie (1986), feat. Judd Nelson, Lenoard Nimoy, Orsen Wells. Evil Decepticons lead a final attack on Autobot city on earth, while a planet sized monster seeks to consume their home planet of Cybertron.


The top three are garuanteed permanent status. The othrs might be bumpd for new movies, but are still total classics. I dont evn have room to mention Dune (1985), X-Men (2000), Dick Tracey, (1990), or the awesome if unplausible Japanese sci-fi, The Returner (2002).

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Posted Aug 21 2007 - 02:17 PM:
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Run, Lola, Run was on the top list for many years, with The Fifth Element. Run, Lola, Run uses an effective storytelling device to wzx philosophic about the choices we make.

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Posted Sep 08 2007 - 12:45 PM:
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BANDS:
10. Imperial Teen
9. Assorted Jellybeans
8. Operatic
7. The Pillows
6. We Are Scientists
5. Black Lips
4. The Cure
3. Modest Mouse
2. Queens of the Stone Age
1. Interpol
BOOKS:
10. The Outsiders----------------S.E. Hinton
9. The "Where's Waldo?" Series--Martin Bradford
8. Smack------------------------Melvin Burges
7. The Godfather----------------Mario Puzo
6. Animal Farm------------------George Orwell
5. It---------------------------Stephen King
4. The Goosebumps Series--------R.L. Stine
3. FLCL(Manga)------------------Gainax
2. Big Fish---------------------Daniel Wallace
1. Battle Royale----------------Koushin Takami

Movies will come after I had some time to think about 'em.

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Posted Sep 10 2007 - 02:54 PM:
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Can't seem to rate my movies into a top ten list but if I had to it would be between the following:

Adventures of Baron von Munchausen
Amadeus
Antonia's Line
A Clockwork Orange
Big Trouble in Little China
Satyricon
Nights of Cabirria
Swimming Pool
E tu Mama Tabien
City of God
Empire of the Sun
Battle Angel (Manga)
Akira
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Posted Sep 11 2007 - 08:59 AM:
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ah my friends! I looove Big Trouble in Little China!!! That was our staple as kids in the 80s. 'Its all in the reflexes.'

Not to mention the classic B+ movie The Omega Man. Ol' C. Heston at his finest.

I sometimes fantasize about having Akira powrs, but I realize Id probably destroy the earth if I did in a fit of rage. Guess that why we humans dont have access to such things...too dangerous. Nukes notwithstanding.

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Posted Sep 11 2007 - 05:26 PM:
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I watched a video the other night that I'd rate in the top ten for the anti-feminism category. It was call Premonition, staring Sandra Bullock. According to the film, without grounding in beliefs (Christian beliefs that is) we are subject to the random forces in the universe. Sandra, our heroine in the story, has lost her faith so the universe closes in on her. Being a woman she is of course helpless, and by the end of the story only manages to take care of her children and successfully get pregnant, fulfilling her proper role in the big scheme of things.

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Posted Sep 11 2007 - 07:31 PM:
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I watched a video the other night that I'd rate in the top ten for the anti-feminism category. It was call Premonition, staring Sandra Bullock. According to the film, without grounding in beliefs (Christian beliefs that is) we are subject to the random forces in the universe. Sandra, our heroine in the story, has lost her faith so the universe closes in on her. Being a woman she is of course helpless

i didn't really see this movie as anti-feminist (of course, it depends on what you mean by anti-feminism, as the definition does vary). that the main character is female is, in my opinion, not intended to illustrate the "helplessness" of the gender in specific. the priest in the film gives other examples of faithlessness, one which involves a man who shot his children to try to save them from influenza. the autopsy revealed they were never infected, and the man subsequently shot himself. the idea being that regardless of whether you are male or female, there are some forces beyond your control.

also, i didn't feel that there was an emphasis on grounding in christian beliefs, as the other example given by the priest was of a woman who was burned as a witch (a practice common in christian cultures of old), and it turned out that her prediction of an impending storm came true and wiped out the whole town.

by the end of the story only manages to take care of her children and successfully get pregnant, fulfilling her proper role in the big scheme of things.

i disagree that this is all she accomplishes. her pregnancy at the end is symbolic of her singular act of faith which precipitated the conception of the child (and also led her husband to calling off his affair).

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favorite books:

alan watts - the book: on the taboo against knowing who you are
alan watts - the two hands of god

lewis carroll - alice's adventure's in wonderland

c.s. lewis - voyage of the dawn treader
c.s. lewis - till we have faces: a myth retold

edwin abbott - flatland: a romance of many dimensions

rudy rucker - the fourth dimension

ian stewart - nature's numbers

alice miller - the drama of the gifted child

judith herman - trauma and recovery

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Posted Sep 11 2007 - 07:52 PM:
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*spoiler alert*

the priest in the film gives other examples of faithlessness, one which involves a man who shot his children to try to save them from influenza. the autopsy revealed they were never infected, and the man subsequently shot himself.

I'd classify that as poor judgement myself, rather than faithlessness.

her pregnancy at the end is symbolic of her singular act of faith which precipitated the conception of the child (and also led her husband to calling off his affair).

What was her singular act of faith? fighting for what she wanted?

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Posted Sep 11 2007 - 09:33 PM:
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I'd classify that as poor judgement myself, rather than faithlessness.

personally, i'd say it was both a lack of faith as well as poor judgement. in any case, the priest was using it as an example of a lack of faith, and the point i was trying to make is that i don't think the film was suggesting that her character's problem was gender-specific.

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What was her singular act of faith? fighting for what she wanted?

earlier on, as it become more and more real to her that she was losing him, she reacted in various manners; fear, anger, desperation. to me, those (of course natural) reactions were causing her to lose sight of the real value the relationship had to her. those initial reactions were stemming in large part from a blow to the ego. the ego wants to control everything; faith is about trust, and surrender. in the scene where they are about to conceive their third child, there was a distinct shift in energy; that is when her fighting stopped. finally she realized what the struggle was really about and what she was losing. that scene was, more than any others in the movie, about her love for him - remembering, rediscovering, re-kindling it. it wasn't about making demands, looking for guarantees or trying to change the future. it was about trusting the moment. that to me was her singular act of faith.


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Posted Sep 11 2007 - 10:03 PM:
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in the scene where they are about to conceive their second child, there was a distinct shift in energy; that is when her fighting stopped. finally she realized what the struggle was really about and what she was losing. that scene was, more than any others in the movie, about her love for him - remembering, rediscovering, re-kindling it. it wasn't about making demands, looking for guarantees or trying to change the future. it was about trusting the moment. that to me was her singular act of faith.

As I recall she was on her knees in that scene. Too bad they couldn't meet as equals, aye?

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As I recall she was on her knees in that scene. Too bad they couldn't meet as equals, aye?

i wasn't getting any suggestion of inferiority from that scene. kneeling is a symbol of faith, and that moment was about her letting go. if there had been other scenes in the movie to suggest that the story had anything to do with his need to control or dominate her, then i might have read something like that into the scene. this was a story about her relationship with fate; her relationship with him was a small facet of a bigger picture. how could an anti-feminist paint the husband to be superior while having him cheating on his wife and getting his head torn off in a car accident, while his widow lives happily ever after with their children? it seems a stretch to me.

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Posted Sep 11 2007 - 11:36 PM:
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kneeling is a symbol of faith

And subservience.

if there had been other scenes in the movie to suggest that the story had anything to do with his need to control or dominate her, then i might have read something like that into the scene.

I noticed that the first thing we see in the beginning scene of the story is the husband surprising his wife with a new house. I guess if they were rich that wouldn't be a big deal, but she found it hard to believe that they were in a position to buy a house. What kind of picture does that paint? Buying a house is not like going to the florist to surprise your sweetie with a dozen roses.

I don't know about a need to control or dominate, rather it could be interpreted to mean that the subservient position is the natural position for a woman.

It's intriguing that we see this so differently. grin

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Posted Sep 12 2007 - 07:34 AM:
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It's intriguing that we see this so differently. grin

indeed. thanks for sharing your perspectives. there were a few plot gaping plot holes that i thought would have been easy enough to fix, but overall, i found it was an interesting story and had been hoping to eventually discuss it with someone who had seen it. it was cool you mentioned it. smiling face

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No ones mentioned Wings of Desire yet, what... did you forget?

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Snap with Lib on books: c.s. lewis - voyage of the dawn treader, and movies: raise the red lantern and run lola run. I'd go along with Nihil Loc's A Clockwork Orange.

(in no particular order)
The Fisher King: Robin Williams plays a crazy guy, buy not for laughs.
True Grit: A drunken bounty hunter, a Texas Ranger and a vengeful young girl team up to find her father's killer.
Babel: Pitt and Blanchett seldom appear in a film that is tragic in all the right ways.
Jaws: The whale eats Captain Ahab and the Chief detonates the shark.
Picnic At Hanging Rock: Lesbian love affairs, murder, shame and tragedy, all in a private girls school. Oh, and a big scary rock.
Mad Max: Road Warrior: Only a mother could love him, and his mother wouldn’t recognise him.
Lantana: Relationships are thrust under the microscope as a mystery is investigated.
Star Man: Humanity on trial as a little alien tlc shows the way and saves the day.
Alien: Join the merchant marines, see the galaxy, meet new and interesting species, and kill them.
Unforgiven: William Muny died penniless. What the hell has that got to do with anything?!
The Castle: Land rights for one means land rights for all as a ‘typical’ Aussie family fights the Law and wins.
Fight Club: Two boys meet a girl. Chaos ensues.
Life Of Brian: Ancient Judea was a funny place.
Groundhog Day: A timeless classic about a man who meets a woman, until he just can’t stand it anymore.

How can I have just ten! And that list is highly subject to change...

Hey Lib; have you seen either Pan’s Labyrinth or My Neighbour Totoro?


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hey beans,

two very different movies i realize (alien vs. aliens) but aliens is also one of my top faves, also fight club. enjoyed pan's labyrinth thumb up, haven't seen my neighbor totoro.

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1. How to kill a mugging bird
2. Gonne with the wind
3. Biko
4. The last temptation of Jesus
5. East is East
6. The wicket Lady
7. Kevin alone at home
8. In the name of my father
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