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libertygrl
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Posted 06/01/16 - 4:25 PM:
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Who will you or would you or won't you vote for?
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Posted 06/02/16 - 8:15 AM:

As always: I vote NOTA, meaning I don't vote.

Gotta admit though: I'm real tempted to cast one for Trump.
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Posted 06/03/16 - 1:37 PM:



ah, trump will certainly shake things up. shaking head

not keen on hillary but i'll vote for her if she wins the dem nom, which it looks like she will.

meanwhile i'm still pulling for bernie to take the california primary (no big surprise there i'm sure)
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Posted 06/04/16 - 10:36 AM:

henry quirk wrote:
As always: I vote NOTA, meaning I don't vote.

Gotta admit though: I'm real tempted to cast one for Trump.
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zen I knew something about trumps style would appeal to you henry nod
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Posted 06/04/16 - 10:40 AM:

if I understand all this correctly , the winner is already picked in advance by the powers that be nod
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Posted 06/06/16 - 8:53 AM:

"meanwhile i'm still pulling for bernie to take the california primary (no big surprise there i'm sure)"

Why, Lib, I ddn't know you were a big ol commie.

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"I knew something about trumps style would appeal to you henry"

Well, he has a few, common sense, ideas that appeal to me, but yeah, his style is a big draw for me.

Simply: he's not a pussy.
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Posted 06/06/16 - 8:57 AM:

"if I understand all this correctly , the winner is already picked in advance by the powers that be"

Normally, I'd say 'yep', but I think the businees man and the commie messed up the plan this go around.
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Posted 06/06/16 - 11:34 AM:

henry quirk wrote:
"if I understand all this correctly , the winner is already picked in advance by the powers that be"

Normally, I'd say 'yep', but I think the businees man and the commie messed up the plan this go around.
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who do you think will win henry ?
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Posted 06/06/16 - 3:22 PM:

I think Trump will win in a big way if he avoids being moved from his current stands and demeanor by well- (and not so well-) meaning advisors.

Seems that when he does what come natural he does well, and, when he plays nice, he does poorly.

Courting Paul Ryan, for example, is Trump Advised, not Trump Natural, and therefore, as an effort, falls flat. Playing nice with Governor Martinez is Trump Advised, not Trump Natural, and, as an effort also falls flat.

Trump Natural is bold while Trump Advised is supposed to look thoughtful but comes across as timid.

He'd do well to reign in his adviors and, as I say, do what comes natural. If he does he can't help but win the big chair.
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Posted 06/10/16 - 5:23 PM:

Why, Lib, I ddn't know you were a big ol commie.


probably because i'm not. raspberry democratic socialism of the kind bernie espouses is what we already have in this country & is far from communism.

trump is a con artist. swindled thousands of people out of tens of thousands of dollars to attend his "trump university".

over 2 million ballots in california still remain to be counted so we'll see if hillary is as far ahead as she acts like she is.




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Posted 06/13/16 - 10:03 AM:

You make distinctions that are, I think, mostly based on labels.

Me: I see little difference between the schmuck who'd direct me as socialist and the schmuck who direct me as commie.

As for Trump: he ain't been convicted of diddly yet.

As for his 'victims': the ones I've seen interviewed struck me more as pussies who can't say 'no'. No doubt they were pressured/hard sold, but no more, I'm thinkin' than any one who goes to a car dealership.

I think, these folks thought they were gonna get access to arcane secrets, got only common sense, and now want compensation for bein' gullible.
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Posted 06/30/16 - 4:08 PM:

henry quirk wrote:
I think, these folks thought they were gonna get access to arcane secrets, got only common sense, and now want compensation for bein' gullible.

What do you suppose the naive and gullible think they'll be getting out of a Trump presidency?
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Posted 07/01/16 - 8:59 AM:

A (more)secure southern border...bomb-throwing wahhabists kept (mostly) out of the U.S....rebalanced trade with other nations...blunting of the crystal-rubbers and tree-huggers...jobs...the transubstantiation of water into beer...standard shit.

Which of the above can Trump actually make good on?

Mebbe securing the border, mebbe keeping the bomb throwers out, mebbe restoring some balance to trade, but not to the extent he promises, not to the extent his supporters want.

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And: how about that Brit exit from the E.U.?

I think, in the long run, it's a good thing.
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Posted 07/01/16 - 3:06 PM:

Quote henry : how about that Brit exit from the E.U.?

I think, in the long run, it's a good thing.

speaking as an ancient Brit henry I agree with you BUT remember henry that Obama said it would be a bad mistake .

Barack Obama says Brexit would leave UK at the 'back of the queue' on trade
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Posted 07/01/16 - 3:22 PM:

henry quirk wrote:
Which of the above can Trump actually make good on?

Mebbe securing the border, mebbe keeping the bomb throwers out, mebbe restoring some balance to trade, but not to the extent he promises, not to the extent his supporters want.

It amazes me that you have any confidence at all that he'll do anything he promises. I doubt he would garner enough support to get any kind of wall built. Many politicians are crooked but he has no qualms about making known that his word is good for very little.

www.sfgate.com/news/politic...-for-Tim-Tebow-8336755.php

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And: how about that Brit exit from the E.U.?

I think, in the long run, it's a good thing.

I've heard arguments for and against. I think it could potentially be good for the UK, time will tell.
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Posted 07/02/16 - 2:44 PM:

libertygrl wrote:

It amazes me that you have any confidence at all that he'll do anything he promises. I doubt he would garner enough support to get any kind of wall built. Many politicians are crooked but he has no qualms about making known that his word is good for very little.


I would rather vote for someone who admits that he is lying in his campaign promises, than someone who tries to tell you that what she says is the truth. A liar who admits the lie, is mote trustworthy than a liar who denied that they are lying.
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Posted 07/03/16 - 8:29 AM:

QUOTE LIBERTY GIRL: "Many politicians are crooked re"

This reminds us of former promises and lies made by Obama and Nixon and Clinton among others ..
Obama promised that if he was elected he would close the BAY bay ....well he is near to the end of his terms of office and the bay bay is still open
Clinton said he did nor have sex with Monica Lewinsky , later he admitted that he did.
Nixon said he knew nothing about the Watergate tapes ,later evidence showed that he did and he was forced to resign.
one wonders what promises the winner will make and then break when elected ?

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Posted 07/03/16 - 8:35 AM:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8USRg3h4AdE
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Posted 07/03/16 - 11:40 AM:

"It amazes me that you have any confidence at all that he'll do anything he promises."

Oh, I got no confidence in him, or any one...just sayin' he could do some things if he wanted, just not to the extent he claims he can or that his supporters would like him to.
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Posted 07/05/16 - 3:14 PM:

Glad to hear you're not buying into his con game.

For anyone who is, I recommend checking out John Oliver's deconstruction of how viable the construction of a border wall is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU8dCYocuyI

Keep in mind that there's an extensive maze of underground tunnels leading into the US on which a wall would have no impact.
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Posted 07/05/16 - 3:23 PM:

Leaving China's rather effective 'great wall' aside for the moment...

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