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Posted 08/19/15 - 10:47 AM:
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Does the soul survive the body at death? This author believes so. My own beliefs on this have shifted around over time, can't say I've come to rest on anything concrete yet. I certainly believe it's possible. What do you think?

www.spiritscienceandmetaphy...another-universe-at-death/
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Posted 08/19/15 - 1:10 PM:

Speaking only for me: I have no in-dwelling spirit, no soul.

I self-interrogate, -investigate, -observe, and all I find is thinking, feeling, self-directing meat.

Mebbe all of 'you' are ensouled, but I'm not.

And: I don't seem worse off because of my horrid material-only existence.

So: I’m good with it.
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Posted 08/19/15 - 3:16 PM:

Hmmm ok, but if I meet anyone in the next life who seems suspiciously like you, I'll ask him if he remembers you wink
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Posted 08/19/15 - 6:54 PM:

libertygrl wrote:
Hmmm ok, but if I meet anyone in the next life who seems suspiciously like you, I'll ask him if he remembers you wink


You won't meet another like him lib sticking out tongue

On Soul: If there is one reality--that is all there's--call it self, soul or life. Something separate from it might exist but would mostly be temporary.

Your question seems like pointing to reincarnation/transmigration of soul.
I feel if a bunch of memories travels from one so called 'incarnation' to other it's not accurately the same thing.

You, me, Henry, Sunlight, Starjade, MemoryLane, Metamorpha and everyone else is unique as persons. There is no replication in nature--even thumbprints are not repeated in history of mankind(so I have heard.)

What this means is--there's no way you can reincarnate.

As a person: You can't reincarnate. You're a unique phenomenon in time and space--unforeseen and non-repeatable.

As life/reality/soul: You are all--life--existence. This existence is immovable because it's all pervading and in it everything takes-place. In this case as well there's no chance of reincarnation. smiling face


Then what about the reported cases?

I would save that for another post. smiling face

How have you been Henry, Lib and others?

Have a nice day smiling face

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Posted 08/20/15 - 7:52 AM:

QUOTE WAS MAN BORN TO DIE ? ....................the BIBLE..is very clear on this ...originally man was created to live forever ,with one condition they must not eat of one particular tree whose fruit contained good and evil , well they did eat of it and we all can see what happened......................as for reincarnation the scriptures agree with thinker......"t is appointed for men to die once ". not many times but once .......does the soul survive death ? , here is another question worth considering for us all if the souls does survive death and the question is where does the soul find itself after death >I think that depends on the kind of life lived in the body while alive on the earth , see scripture back up .
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Posted 08/20/15 - 8:04 AM:

Luke 16:19-31New King James Version (NKJV)

The Rich Man and Lazarus
19 “There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. 20 But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, 21 desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell[a] from the rich man’s table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, .
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Posted 08/20/15 - 12:06 PM:

Thinker: I am doing well thank you, and yourself?

Starjade: I have had out of body experience myself, they are indeed very compelling.

We are material beings so naturally our perspectives have a material orientation... I wonder if souls exist in other non-corporeal dimensions with memory storage very unlike what we currently understand.

Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts, very enlightening heart
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Posted 08/20/15 - 12:46 PM:

Glad to know you had OBE lib smiling face

I am good too smiling face

You're most welcome and have a nice day. heart
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Posted 08/20/15 - 1:55 PM:

Starjade wrote:

I am surprised to a degree thinker 13 that you do not believe in reincarnation, which is a common belief with most I have spoken too in India. I am a Doomsday Prophet with a full knowledge of the extinction of all oxygen breathing life on this Planet in the ever nearing future. So reincarnating in the on coming future does have a grim problem. Known as the apocalypse in the western world.


Hello Starjade smiling face

My reasoning is clearly given in the previous post. It has more to do with what I consider a person/living being is. If i completely accept what you or anyone else has to suggest about reincarnation, even then I don't consider it reincarnation.

To make it clear: I feel I don't mean the same thing by "reincarnation" as most people do. This might be possible that memories transfer from one life form to another--still, this for me is not "rebirth." Because we are not just memories. We are both material( as lib suggested) and spiritual beings.

On your ideas about reincarnating in past: It's superb and way beyond belief for most of us. I feel it's a brilliant idea. smiling face

Have a nice evening Starjade smiling face

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Posted 08/21/15 - 7:36 AM:

QUOTE THE FALSEPROPHET " Speaking for myself and the rest of humanity.................you can speak for yourself but you have no right to speak for the rest of humanity , the only one who has that right is the one who gave his life for all humanity , and that is JESUS .
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Posted 08/21/15 - 7:50 AM:

QUOTE THE FALSE PROPHET "" including my power of explanations to places outside of this planet that you are unaware of....................that's not suprising false prophet since neither do you have the power to know of paradise where JESUS is , I wonder why this knowledge has been forbidden to you by the REAL living GOD ...hmm? rolling eyes
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Posted 08/21/15 - 7:56 AM:

Revelation 2:7


He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who conquers I will grant to eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God
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Posted 08/22/15 - 7:08 AM:

QUOTE THE ANTICHRIST evidence was shown to you bumlight but your too stupid to face up to such logical conclusions..........................the evidence that was shown to me by THE REAL LIVING GOD that JESUS is real will never be shown to a foul mothed mentally sick person like you THE TRUE LIVING GOD is very particular as to whom he shows his son to and he does not give what is holy to dogs .
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Posted 08/22/15 - 8:57 PM:

Jesus is sitting down one day and is visioning the high rate of drug consumption on earth in later years. He thought it was a bit hypocritical of him to condemn them without first trying them himself, so he sent his apostles out to find what drugs they could.The secret operation is effected and two days later the commissioned Jesus, waiting at the door, hears a knock:

"Who is it?" "It's Paul."

Jesus opens the door.

"What did you bring Paul?"

"Hashish from Morocco"

another knock ...

"Who is it?"

"It's Mark"

Jesus opens the door.

"What did you bring Mark?"

"Marijuana from Colombia"

another knock ...

"Who is it?"

"It's Matthew"

Jesus opens the door.

"What did you bring Matthew ?"

"Cocaine from Bolivia"

This continues for a while until finally there's a 12th knock on the door.

"Who is it?"

"It's Judas"

Jesus opens the door.

"What did you bring Judas?"

"FBI MOTHER FUCKERS!"

Courtesy of Sickipedia.org: www.sickipedia.org/religion...ng-the-14469#ixzz3jbDSYwK9
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Posted 08/22/15 - 9:10 PM:

Bumlight has an image of Jesus that pops up on his PC monitor if he leaves it idle for 10 minutes. It's his screen saviour.

Jesus is on Twitter, but unfortunately he's only got twelve followers.

Don't bother reading that Bible book... he dies in the end!

I'm kinda guessing the whole touch wood thing just didn't work for Jesus.

What's the difference between a picture of Jesus and the real Jesus?

It only takes one nail to hang up a picture!

Trying to think of a hilarious Good Friday joke, I really want to nail this.

The three wise men arrived to visit the child lying in the manger. One of the wise men was exceptionally tall and bumped his head on the low doorway as he entered the stable. "Jesus Christ!" he exclaimed.

Joseph said, "Write that down, Mary - it's better than Ben Dover or Dave!"

Jesus is about to be crucified and screams, "Leave me alone, you fuckers. I haven't done anything you whore-riddled scum of the earth, arse-licking cunts!"

Peter tells him, "Master, the press are here."

Jesus gets on the cross, "Lord, Lord, forgive them for they know not what they do."


I don't understand why Christians are against gay marriage.
Jesus had two dads, he turned out alright. And followed in his fathers footsteps.


So what if Jesus turned water into wine...I turned a whole student loan into Vodka once. Your move Jesus...


So what if Jesus can walk on water?

I managed to walk on 11 pints of Stella and 8 Tequila shots once....


If Jesus can walk on water, what happens to him when it rains?

Jesus said to Peter, "Come forth and I will give you eternal glory."
Peter came fifth and won a toaster.

Apparently, some branches of Christianity in the US push the belief that Jesus was black.

Come to think of it, it's not too far-fetched: a man born in a shed who never met his real father, never had a job, made his own cheap wine and was executed by the government for his involvement in a gang. And was a gang banger.

Mohammed spent a lot of time up mountains, slaying goats and raping children,

Jesus spent a lot of time around the docks and managed to feed the 5000 on fish.

And that, people, is the difference between gross prophet and net prophet.

love Jesus.

He's born, you get presents. He dies, you get chocolate.

Jesus Christ opened the fridge.

"Is it wine yet, Jesus?" one of the disciples asked.

"No," replied Jesus, reading the bottle. "It says it's 'still water'."

Whenever I'm in doubt, I ask myself, "What would Jesus do?"

Then I remember Jesus got crucified, so his decision making skills obviously weren't brilliant.

At the last supper, Jesus takes the bread, blesses it, and says,

"Take this, all of you, and eat it, for this is my body."

He then proceeds to bless the wine and says,

"Take this, all of you, and drink it, for this is my blood."

Finally, he picks up the milk, but Peter looks at him and says,

"You can fuck right off."


If God had sex with Mary without her consent then that's rape. Alternatively, Mary consented in which case she committed adultery (breaking God's seventh commandment).

Now considering Jesus had a rapist for a father or an adulterer for a mother, how can he be so preachy about things?

How did Jesus feel about being crucified?

Cross.

What did Jesus say to his 12 gay apostles as he was being nailed to the cross?

"Don't touch my fucking Easter eggs, I'll be back on Monday."

Jesus approached a man who could not walk and said, "Dear Brother, have you been involved in an accident that wasn't your fault?"

*knock knock*

Who's there?

*knock knock*

Who's there?

*knock knock*

Who's there?

Look Jesus, let me finish nailing your feet and quit the fucking jokes, eh!?


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Posted 08/22/15 - 9:14 PM:

Jesus walks into a hotel, throws a bag of nails on the counter and says, "Can you put me up for the night?"

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Posted 08/22/15 - 9:38 PM:

Why do people think that Jesus is coming back?

It's not like he was nailed to a fucking boomerang

Who would win in a fight, Spiderman or Jesus?

Spiderman, because Jesus isn't real.

What does a virgin and Jesus have in common?

They both bleed when they are getting nailed.

I'm not atheist or anything but I mean if Jesus really was a Jew, how come he has a Mexican name?

Jesus had a Honda.

John 12:49: For I did not speak of my own accord.

A Sunday school teacher is concerned that his students might be a little confused about Jesus, so he asks his class, "Where is Jesus today?"

Steven raises his hand and says, "He's in Heaven."

Mary answers, "He's in my heart."

Little Johnny waves his hand furiously and blurts out, "He's in our bathroom!"

The surprised teacher asks Little Johnny how he knows this.

"Well," Little Johnny says, "every morning, my father gets up, bangs on the bathroom door and yells 'Jesus Christ, are you still in there?!'"


"Hey God," shouted Jesus from the kitchen.

"Come and look, I've found the face of a complete fucking moron in my toast."

What did Jesus sing on the cross?

I feel it in my fingers, i feel it in my toes

Jesus loves you.

Unless you're carrying some nails and a hammer.

Why did Jesus take Viagra?

To prepare himself for his second coming.

a poem-
"Jesus Christ - He's so fine he turns water into wine!"

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jesus Christ - What a queer, he should have turned it into beer.

Bumlight Jesus is with you always.

Bumlight Erm Jesus I'm trying to have a wank.

I don't see how all these Christian fundamentalists can claim that homosexuality is wrong.

I'm pretty sure there's a bit in the Bible where Jesus gets nailed by a bunch of Roman soldiers.
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Posted 08/22/15 - 9:57 PM:

If Jesus was born today what would have he been called?

Mental.

They said Jesus walks on water...
Well, shit does float.

Jesus gave his life for gay rights.

He died for arse-ins. laughing

What made Jesus holy?

The Romans

I heard that Jesus started out as a Sikh.
however it could just be a turban legend.

BBC News: One dead after suicide bombing in Stockholm.

Disgusting, killing yourself in the name of religion.

What would Jesus say?


Today we ask the question...

Was Jesus really crucified or was it hardcore S&M gone badly wrong?

With Jesus saying ' suffer little children come unto me', is it any surprise the Catholic church is full of kiddie fiddlers?
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Posted 08/23/15 - 3:06 AM:

well said metamorpha.. its good to have a professional opinion , have a good sunday ...clap
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Posted 08/23/15 - 4:14 AM:
Subject: Soul on the move
STARJADE: In my entire professional career I have never encountered a more severe case of Egodystonic Homosexuality. In DSM-IV-TR it is defined as the condition of being distressed about an inability to be aroused by the opposite sex. There is a sustained pattern of same-sex arousal that the person explicitly states has been unwanted and persistently distressing. The condition is frequently accompanied by feelings of loneliness, shame, anxiety, and depression. In DSM-IV-TR it is categorized as a SEXUAL DISORDER NOT OTHERWISE SPECIFIED. Case closed.

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Posted 08/25/15 - 8:24 AM:

QUOTE TGE DOMESDAY LAST FALSE PROPHET. yo bumlight stop stealing other peoples posts and using them as if they are your own. Try reading them first before your stupidity exposes you as being an idiot. Which we all knew anyways...............well he certainly expose YOU for what you are , and who will argue with a PROFFESIONAL , hmm?
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Posted 08/25/15 - 8:48 AM:

QUOTE THE LAST DAY FALSE PROPHET
Just look at the way you speak of the “Living God” ...................and just look at the way you twist the truthm but everyone can see I write YOUR FALSE LIVING GOD who does not have a son called JESUS whereas the RUE LIVING GOD has a son called JESUS.....there is a TRUE GOD and there are FALSE GODS just as there are TRUE PROPHETS and FALSW PROPHETS like you ......MOSES gave the identifying signs for the TRUE Deuteronomy prophet , he said he must be an ISRAELITE snt to ISRAEL and JESUS fulfilled those conditions he was an ISRAELITE sent to ISRAEL , but YOU do NOT fulfil those conditions , you are a foul mouthed mentally sick man from blackpool here in England who calls himself the KING OF KINGS , almost feel sorry for you because you should be having professional councelling.

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Posted 08/25/15 - 8:58 AM:

deuteronomy/18-15.

The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him.
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Posted 08/25/15 - 7:18 PM:

And as a matter of fact bumlight. I studied all works of Freud and Jung and Pavlov when I was a small child. It was simply child’s stuff to me. That is why I can easily push your buttons. You see how easily I have caused your teeth to gnash and it was intentional and also for you educational. You are in such a terrible position. That is the problem with assholes that worship idols. Idols always have such diabolical flaws. Diabolical is a word I have been rather fond of this week.

Although I am a world expert on many religions I would not waste such revelations on an asshole like you. It is far more entertaining to me to put you in your place and cause your teeth to gnash for being such an asshole and also insulting to me.

You are incapable of actual religious dialogue and your petty retorts only serve to expose what a nasty character you as a Christian really are. Take offence if you choose just because I pointed out the religious community is aware the character Jesus was portrayed as being gay. It just shows what a homophobe you are.

Why should such a thing matter to you? Have I shattered the delusions of your idol worshipping? What ever happened to your claimed love of Jesus a man claimed to have lived and died long ago and has also been established as being a fraud to many religious communities. Do you no longer love Jesus because he is depicted and has been exposed as being a faggot.

That is what you Birmingham folk call people who are gay isn’t it. I have heard them call that out in the street at supposed homosexuals by brummies in Birmingham before going over to give them a queer bashing. You could well have been amongst them. So don’t play the coy injured party. I know what sort you are. Most people from the mad philosophers guild do analyse writings as a matter of course. You mainly write copy cut and pastes. Yet when your buttons get pressed why a whole gush of information about your character comes forth.

The part that is so strange in all of this is that you are in love with a {imaginary} man called Jesus. So that does make you gay also doesn’t it when a man loves a man. So why would you care when you discover Jesus was really a gay character. You believe stupidly that Jesus is going to rise from the grave. All the better for you however it sounds as if you are well fucked already and Jesus was supposed to like pretty young boys not a melon head past his sell by date so still Jesus would have no interest in the likes of you. Still I understand that it important for things like you to have hope and dreams. That is the price of idol worship.

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Posted 08/30/15 - 2:20 AM:

QUOTE THEANTICHRIST What's the difference between a picture of Jesus and the real Jesus?

It only takes one nail to hang up a picture! .................................................................................there is no need for me to answer that ........GOD himself will answer in a way that he seems fit at a time of his choosing .
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