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Posted 04/06/14 - 7:46 PM:
Subject: THOU ROYAL DEIFIC HOLY ONE
Thou Royal Deific Holy One...Ever Thy Power exudng...Ushering, cascading, through creation. Melting, fusing, elemental stones of fire...Pemeating, pervading with phontic gradeur. Why this, Thy primal abiogenesis? Why this Thy stellar climax? Orbs Thou fling in circuitous splendor...Always breathing ...breeding Thy Cosmic children. Always inhaling...absorbing Thy spectral display. Yes, life and death are at Thy command! But why this, Thou Royal Deific Holy One?
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Posted 04/07/14 - 8:12 AM:

Because I can.
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Posted 04/07/14 - 10:09 PM:

To: the Doc. Thank you for responding to my poem, "Thou Royal Deific Holy One." Your three word post reply, "Because I can," more or less leaves me at a loss as to what you mean, relative to the poem. At any rate I hope you enjoyed it. Sincerely, Wentworth

Edited by Wentworth on 04/07/14 - 10:17 PM. Reason: Punctuation
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Posted 04/07/14 - 10:49 PM:

It seemed to me that your poem was a question as to why God would create something as spectacular as the entire universe, only for the benefit of humanity. My response is my presumed answer to that question, but it's only my speculation, somewhat based on the book of Job.
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Posted 04/15/14 - 8:07 AM:

[quote=thedoc]It seemed to me that your poem was a question as to why God would create something as spectacular as the entire universe, only for the benefit of humanity. My response is my presumed answer to that question, but it's only my speculation, somewhat based on the book of Job. ............YES doc and remember that after GOD had showed JOB things he was ignorant of JOB put his hand over his mouth and would speak no more and humnled himself under the mighty hand of GOD, you would do well to follow JOBS example anti PAUL which by exrension would make you ANTI CHRIST because you have rejected the message that JESUS sent PAUL to speak to us gentiles


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Posted 04/16/14 - 2:50 PM:

To: theDoc. Rarely, if ever, do I comment on, let alone defend any poem I have written. But since you posed the question "why would God create something as spectacular as the universe only for the benefit of humanity?" Presupposing that a person believes in a Supreme Being, which the poem does, as indicated by the words "Thou" as in Personage, and "Royalty" as in Monarchy, and "Deific" as in Deity, and "Holiness" as in Supreme, Perfect, Divine, All Powerful, and Sacred, and "One" as in Personage, Self, and Being, then the poem and title speak for itself. Presupposing the reality of a Creator, creating the universe, and a creation such as man, both of which are inclusive, or exclusive, it is not too much to believe why the poem is human-specific. Also, the poem is predicated on the concept of an "Ultimate Cause, Person, or Force," as used in philosophy and meta-physics, or as "Creator" as in theology. Also in The Pentateuch, Moses wrote that God said, "let Us create man in Our own Image and Likeness," indicates, in that belief system, a human specificity, or teleological view towards human-kind. Keeping in mind that man can think, communicate, and pray, and that inanimate rocks and earth cannot, also leads to the presupposition that the human creation is a special and unique creation, as far as "The Creator" is concerned. Hope these few thoughts help explain the genesis of the poem to some extent. Sincerely, Wentworth
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Posted 04/16/14 - 3:37 PM:

Thankyou, though a comment or explanation was not needed, but was appreciated, I got most of what you posted in your reply. I was simply trying to express my understanding of the poem, it was in no way intended to be a criticism of it.

BTW, I did enjoy it, it made me think. (I'll for-go the obvious joke).
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Posted 04/16/14 - 8:03 PM:

Dear Doc, what matters to me is that you enjoyed the poem. What shocks me is that the poem, let alone a post describing it, was able to be generated by a person who, in the forth grade of elementary school, had to undergo remedial training to learn how to read. Children, whether in grade school or high school sometimes just fall behind the expected norm. Certainly an intervention is needed to help the child rise to the occasion. Sadly, this intervention is not provided to those in need. The school system alluded to was supported by taxes from The Ford Motor Company. The entire system even had state of the art swimming pools, which taught swimming beginning in the forth grade and on through high school. For many in America this is the exception, not the rule. Apparently I was in the right place at the right time. Then came college.... Sincerely, Wentworth
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Posted 04/16/14 - 9:27 PM:

Wentworth wrote:
Dear Doc, what matters to me is that you enjoyed the poem. What shocks me is that the poem, let alone a post describing it, was able to be generated by a person who, in the forth grade of elementary school, had to undergo remedial training to learn how to read. Children, whether in grade school or high school sometimes just fall behind the expected norm. Certainly an intervention is needed to help the child rise to the occasion. Sadly, this intervention is not provided to those in need. The school system alluded to was supported by taxes from The Ford Motor Company. The entire system even had state of the art swimming pools, which taught swimming beginning in the forth grade and on through high school. For many in America this is the exception, not the rule. Apparently I was in the right place at the right time. Then came college.... Sincerely, Wentworth



L.O.L. What a coincidence though you didn't indicate repeating the 4th grade, that was the situation for me. I started school as the youngest in my class and by 4th grade it was obvious that I wasn't really ready for that level of schooling, so I was held back and repeated 4th grade. I did much better, but by then it was a bit late and I never fulfilled my potential. A mediocre student in most subjects, I only got into college because of my SAT scores which were the highest in my school, (Small school). I was always high in the aptitude tests as well. I never knew my I.Q. score but my first wife had an I.Q. of over 140, and I never felt inferior to her. Mediocre student in college as well, and I almost didn't graduate for a mix up on my part. My first room mate intentionally flunked out, and that was a bit of a bad influence on my study habits.
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Posted 04/18/14 - 10:14 PM:

To: theDoc. Thank you for sharing a personal part of your life. To your question whether I had to repeat the fourth grade, the answer is no. The fact that you identified with my post, let alone share your past, speaks volumes about you as an honest, caring person. Thank you Doc. Sincerely, Wentworth
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Posted 06/15/14 - 8:48 AM:

Wentworth wrote:
To: the Doc. Thank you for responding to my poem, "Thou Royal Deific Holy One." Your three word post reply, "Because I can," more or less leaves me at a loss as to what you mean, relative to the poem. At any rate I hope you enjoyed it. Sincerely, Wentworth

'''''''''''''''''''. Wentworth sir you must remember when.deing with the doc that he thinks he is smarter than 2 us presidents 3nasa astronaughts and the indian defense minister. He has said that all these suffered from hallucinations and only he sees clearly---so we are dealing here with an.inflatee ego'''' best to leave him playing with hie toy trains he seems hppy enoughgrin
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