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Posted 02/03/14 - 3:20 PM:
Subject: universe as a prison
The structure of our universe, as large as it is, I regard as a prison. Things cooling down, getting farther apart, or as some still believe, coming back for a collapse of some kind. I am not a physics student, however.

What is the order of an afterlife, what is heaven? The structure of heavens and hells? Outside of our universe, could there be places without genes? Places where a person's physical body is reflective of their psychology, an appearance that changes and evolves with their psychology? These are my questions, and a couple of my thoughts on them.

I don't believe that a belief in an 'Almighty' is necessary to travel down this thought, however for the record, I am a believer in a creator of life, not necessarily genetics however.
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Posted 02/04/14 - 10:11 AM:

"what is heaven?"

A fiction.

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"Outside of our universe"

Since 'universe' encompasses 'everything', there can't be an 'outside'.
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Posted 02/04/14 - 11:07 PM:

If what you say is true, there is no such thing as "infinity" as a math as "everything" is countable, and if you go straight long enough you end up exactly where you were, as the universe is shaped exactly like the earth. I appreciate nothing in your post.
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Posted 02/05/14 - 10:33 AM:

If the universe is a Möbius strip or Klein bottle you get infinite and finite all wrapped up on in one neat package.

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"I appreciate nothing in your post."

HA!
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Posted 02/05/14 - 11:16 AM:

do you even understand imaginary numbers?

I thought this was for philosophy. You are a kid, like in school. You don't even have a high school diploma, I don't believe you do anyway.
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Posted 02/05/14 - 3:57 PM:

I would have preferred no comments on my post rather than this. School boy actually thinks a moebius strip proves infinity. I could make one of those with a piece of paper, scissors, and some tape. Does one of your teachers you jerk off to have a klein bottle? Is it infinite since it doesn't have a border? Has no surface area! of course! You think they don't have surface areas! I will never post here on this site again, I suggest you do the same, for different reasons, gay boy.
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Posted 02/05/14 - 4:34 PM:

"I will never post here on this site again"

Bye.
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Posted 02/05/14 - 8:39 PM:

stenciledb wrote:
If what you say is true, there is no such thing as "infinity" as a math as "everything" is countable, and if you go straight long enough you end up exactly where you were, as the universe is shaped exactly like the earth. I appreciate nothing in your post.



Just in case you look in again, Yes that is true, there is no such thing as infinity, it is a mathematical construct and not reality. The Universe is finite but unbounded, think about that for awhile. No the Universe is not shaped like the earth, but you are correct, if you go straight long enough you end up where you started.

FYI, Henry's posts aren't meant to be appreciated, just read and understood, good luck.
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Posted 02/05/14 - 8:45 PM:

stenciledb wrote:
I would have preferred no comments on my post rather than this. School boy actually thinks a moebius strip proves infinity. I could make one of those with a piece of paper, scissors, and some tape. Does one of your teachers you jerk off to have a klein bottle? Is it infinite since it doesn't have a border? Has no surface area! of course! You think they don't have surface areas! I will never post here on this site again, I suggest you do the same, for different reasons, gay boy.



Awfully thin skinned, aren't you? Perhaps you aren't grown up enough to participate on a forum like this, one for adults that don't care what others think of them.

FYI, 'Name Calling' doesn't indicate maturity, just the opposite.
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Posted 02/05/14 - 9:12 PM:

...He apparently hasn't been here long enough to know Henry.

I'm pretty sure insults aren't tolerated here. It's one of the reasons I'm always happy to come back. My problem isn't so much that he felt the need to address henry as "gay boy", but rather that he perceives "gay boy" to be an insult.

Stenciled, Mr Quirk has always been disagreeable. However, everything disagreeable thing he has done has been within reasonable bounds. There are as many types of philosophers out there as there are points in a line. Could be their ideologies and/or how they present them, but no two are exactly the same.

Henry didn't throw insults at you. You did so at him. His probably wasn't the best response to come to as a brand new member of our community, but you can either choose to view it as a personal attack, or as a learning experience.

- Kin <3
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Posted 02/05/14 - 10:34 PM:

Mr Quirk is disagreeable? that depends on your perspective. I see him as honest and true to himself. His philosophy, if you can call it that, is more down and dirty, with nothing held back. But that's just me.
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Posted 02/06/14 - 11:35 AM:

"Mr Quirk has always been disagreeable."

HA!

I kinda like that, Kin: thank you!

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"I see him as honest and true to himself. His philosophy, if you can call it that, is more down and dirty, with nothing held back."

wink
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Posted 02/06/14 - 2:31 PM:

-grins-

Maybe disagreeable was the wrong word? I didn't mean it in a bad way at all. Whatever! I like Henry's quirks!

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Posted 02/06/14 - 2:32 PM:

(I didn't realize until I posted that just how it was worded)
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Posted 02/06/14 - 4:33 PM:

KinNaoko90 wrote:
-grins-

Maybe disagreeable was the wrong word? I didn't mean it in a bad way at all. Whatever! I like Henry's quirks!




Now wait a minute, Henry goes out of his way to be disagreeable and unpleasant sometimes. Are you trying to spoil his reputation as a grumpy, crotchety old guy?
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Posted 02/06/14 - 4:37 PM:

I may be a bit older than Henry, but he's doing his damnedest to be as grumpy as I am.

My grandkids call me 'Grumpa' What do you have to say about that?
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Posted 02/07/14 - 9:23 AM:

I'm laughing too hard to say anything about it... laughing
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Posted 02/07/14 - 10:07 AM:

Kin,

HA!

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Doc,

I'm far too lazy to go out of my way for much of anything, so, if I'm grumpy, it just comes natural... wink
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Posted 02/07/14 - 6:12 PM:

I thought this place was supposed to be dead (so go shoot yourself if you haven't yet).

Don't mind Quirk as he is just an ordinally ornery robot. If he is acting like a "gay boy" then I'm sure it is just part of his Pinocchio program (pretend to be bad to be real). Grumps are grumps because they can't change that about themselves which they say is equivalent to "not wanting to."

Even finite computations along some format, say the permutation of every book in the universe is possible in theory but impossible given the current limits of our computing power, or finite period of time.

You might say that the finite permutations of the smallest discrete parts of the universe approximate infinity. But we are not concerned with such fantasy but the real concrete and finite bounded nonsense that goes on across the internet in the absence of other bodily senses (the so called real life of exchanging textual packages of verbal diarrhea, or grump information packets [GIPs]).

In any case, I charge all of you with being nuttier than the other fruit cakes, from daring to discuss the inane and useless concept of infinity.
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Posted 02/07/14 - 6:18 PM:

Grumps are born out of the realization that they fold back in on themselves, that their heads get reabsorbed into there asses in a boring game of eternal recurrence.
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Posted 02/07/14 - 8:07 PM:

Throw yourself at the ground and miss, My aim is off just a bit, got the bruises to prove it.
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Posted 02/08/14 - 12:01 AM:

Most of the concepts we discuss are "useless" in the eyes of most others.

That's okay, though! We insanity-ridden weirdos (philosophers?) are good at discussing the (perceived) useless things in life in a (semi-)productive manner (usually). The concept of infinity isn't useless. Although... discussing it might well be... Meh! Whatever!
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Posted 02/10/14 - 9:42 AM:

NL,

pffftt!
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Posted 02/10/14 - 12:03 PM:

-pats his back with a 39'7" pole- It'll be alright, Henry.
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Posted 02/10/14 - 2:25 PM:

Kin,

pffftt!
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