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Posted 08/16/13 - 12:53 PM:
Subject: Sabina's Cliffnotes on the Human Condition
Hi all,

I'd like to place my general observations on the forementioned topic; relevant comments are welcome.



1.

Stupidity has always been its own burden, and intelligence a reward.

There could be no clearer justice than all facing the consequences of their own qualities.

What we are is what we deserve.

This alone makes any corrective idealism that nihilistically promotes escapisms from our determined pasts and the liberal's cry against injustice, an absurdity.

We can't change the world, only our response to it.
Control is about setting the stage, and letting things happen in accordance with probabilities.
We have no absolute control as we deny absolutes altogether, but we have a mind that can deduce probabilities better than the average.

We let reality validate our effectiveness or our lack thereof, of all our re/Actions. And the degree of one's self-awareness is in direct proportion to what extent one is able to affirm their past that defines them.

We are our past.
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Posted 08/16/13 - 12:54 PM:

2.

We live in a culture that urges us to forget the past, to overcome it, to dismiss it as irrelevant.
The family is such a connective artery to our genetic past.
We also witness this reconnection in how race and sex and any natural phenomenon, not directly linked to systemic stability and individual comfort, are dismissed or debased.

In this age, as I see all around me, sex itself is becoming a matter of personal choice, further disconnecting the individual from nature and offering him the delusion of free-will, when the entire methodology is meant to leave him vulnerable to current exploitation and vulnerable to trends and fashions.

If there is disillusionment then it can be understood as this disconnection form historical contexts, where narratives and official stories are offered to replace it.
The slow degradation of tradition is such a severing...just as is the death of God, which was a source of identification for the masses who could not think beyond a certain level and needed a fast, comforting, self-identifying source.

Experience can be thought of as one's personal history and how this determines his choices and expectations.
But this is the only one permitted, because it can be controlled, whereas the immutable past can neither be changed nor neglected...but it can be dismissed and forgotten.

Erase an individual's heritage, detach him form his bloodlines and sexuality, as these have been determined by an past, and we have fabricated a tabula rasa: an artificial clean slate that can be written upon by any charlatan and clever little mind that comes along.

Instead what we have is the current rise of "Immediacy."
Immediate gratification, immediate expectations, immediate identifications.
This is what I would call shallow.
This obsession with living in the present, or overcoming the past, is this attempt to detach one from his anchoring.

The past is not overcome it is only dealt with and built upon.
Not the self-serving, self-flattering version, but the one which takes courage and introspection and honesty to cope with.

To know thyself is to know this past as intimately and deeply as we possibly can; it is to accept it, good and bad, flattering and unflattering, to, at least, offer ourselves the option of coming to terms with it before we die, or doing something about it while still alive.

How many feel like this anymore...
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Posted 08/16/13 - 12:54 PM:

3.

Typically 21st century, in the west.

When something negative, hurtful, insulting, is presented as a possibility for explaining the world, demand evidence, explore the other's motives, his emotional states, his family, and sexual, background.
Try to find something to dismiss him as a credible voice.

Demand stringent philosophical discourse, evidence beyond doubt, if possible absolute facts, then sit back content that you destroyed them, or, at the very least, that you provided sufficient doubt to disregard anything he says.
Then the mocking begins.
You know, that teenage, womanly, jaded, cynicism, using words to cover reality rather than bring it into the light?
Yeah, that one.

But if something positive, loving, compassionate, in regards to you, is offered as a hypothesis, if it flatters and makes you feel good, and if it supports everything your parents and peers think is truth, then never question, never get into the weakness, the underlying psychology, the motives, guiding this assessment.
Be more lax with your criteria, more forgiving with your not so discriminating judgments.
Emote.
Surrender to the sensations of community support.
Flirt, socialize, pretend you are thinking when you drop a few words you found on google search.
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Posted 08/16/13 - 12:54 PM:

4.


Just because a position is similar to another, more famous one's, does not mean that the same path has been taken to the same oasis in the desert.

True, most live their lives by going down worn-down roads, because it is easier than going off the beaten path, and it is because they've been taken by the hand and pulled along, waddling behind a long line of individuals such as they are, that they think, conveniently so, that all are like them.
Even those who disagree with them, and have reached another oasis, are taken to be followers, and sheeple ...because it's more flattering than the alternative.

Reality is shared, and though all is changing it is not changing at a rate where life is impossible and all perceptions are obsolete.
The more intricate, subtle, patterns a mind can find, incorporating them, by simplifying, into one grand pattern (world-view), all the more timeless the insights will be.

A simpleton is always trying to adjust his earlier delusions to whatever is most popular at the time.
He calls this his 'open-mind", and his willingness to consider, and to humbly learn.
But then, if every year you are changing your mind, and just so happen to not be female, then you should consider the other possibility that your own lack of consistency and steadiness, may be the product of an absence.

Genius, after all, is a temporal designation.
It can only be judged temporally.

Therefore, if two minds can reach the same conclusion, without being told beforehand what it is, then this does not necessarily mean that one was following the other.
One can only expect that when dealing with a shared world that the conclusion, no matter what way is taken to it, will be the same.

This is not to say that the other type of mind is not more ubiquitous, not only comforting us but also leading us to the error that ALL are just like this.
If we are to find a common trait amongst the western, modern, nihilistic, minds, claiming individuality as their one and only saving grace, it is this desire to reach a conclusion before any justification is given.

A kind of thinking ass-backwards:
First you know what the end is, because you are told so, and all share your convictions, and then you try to justify why you can never let go of it.
And no, it's never because it makes you feel good, and its easy, and popular.

The average ones always begins with the final destination, no matter what it is, just as long as it flatters and feel good thinking about it.
Because reality does give a shit, doesn't it?

This destination must always, always, be popular, or, at the very least, it must possibly become popular, and all-inclusive.
And because it is the most popular it is the most social, the most inclusive, the easiest to accept and to defend.

Stand in a crowd screaming inanities, and see how brave you become - how shameless.
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Posted 08/16/13 - 12:54 PM:

5.

In this age of Dionysian ecstasy, wallowing in inebriated states of self-flattering, drunken stupor, the echo of "I luv ya man" is followed by a shit-faced regurgitation over a communal toilet.

We wake up the next morning with a terrible headache promising ourselves that we will never succumb to the temptation again, but by noontime, once life has slapped us across the face, our boss has given us a verbal wedgy and our neighbor has, almost, begged us to break one of the Ten Commandments, we find ourselves heading towards mother's little cupboard, to pull out the tried and tested little plastic bottle of chemical happiness, just to make it through the evening.

Shall I offer you my cold-shower, before you go back to sleep, all wet, and cold, and alone, despite the body beside you?
Don't pull back the sheets, my dears, you might find that it's been brain-dead for a long, long time.
The cadaver moves, like you do, like a zombie, but it is cold and animated by an innate hunger; a longing for some flesh and bones, and hot, steamy blood.

Why does it not turn to you, all jagged teeth and empty eyes?
Because you are one of them.

Can you not see the reflection of yourself in its needy eyes?
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Posted 08/16/13 - 1:06 PM:

"the delusion of free-will"

Can't see how the recognition and exercise of one's self (by way of self-deliberation) offers a body anything other than an almost perfect defense against 'trends and fashions'.



















good to see you again, satyr... wink
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Posted 08/30/13 - 9:23 AM:

Was hopin' S would return to tussle...

*shrug*
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Posted 08/30/13 - 9:34 PM:

henry quirk wrote:
Was hopin' S would return to tussle...

*shrug*



Hello Henry, I'll print out Sabrina's posts and we can tussle about them after I read them again. I know you like a good tussle now and then. I didn't recognize Sabrina as Satyr, perhaps it was the lack of crude profanity that threw me?

BTW how's the nephew, he's about the same age as my grandson. The grandson was supposed to be learning to play chess so I got a chess set and we played a game. I was correcting his moves several times while I took all his pieces and put him in checkmate. He needs many more lessons to get good at it, if he will sit still long enough to learn. If I can teach him he'll dominate any chess club he might join, except if they use a timer and play fast. I like to take my time and think out the moves. Maybe I can teach him some classic games that he can go on automatic and win.
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Posted 08/30/13 - 9:34 PM:

henry quirk wrote:
Was hopin' S would return to tussle...

*shrug*



Hello Henry, I'll print out Sabrina's posts and we can tussle about them after I read them again. I know you like a good tussle now and then. I didn't recognize Sabrina as Satyr, perhaps it was the lack of crude profanity that threw me?

BTW how's the nephew, he's about the same age as my grandson. The grandson was supposed to be learning to play chess so I got a chess set and we played a game. I was correcting his moves several times while I took all his pieces and put him in checkmate. He needs many more lessons to get good at it, if he will sit still long enough to learn. If I can teach him he'll dominate any chess club he might join, except if they use a timer and play fast. I like to take my time and think out the moves. Maybe I can teach him some classic games that he can go on automatic and win.
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Posted 09/03/13 - 8:47 AM:

"I didn't recognize Sabrina as Satyr"

Yeah...a more careful reading on my part has me thinkin' it's just another acolyte.


My GREAT BEAST OF THE APOCALYPSE is doin' great...good marks in school so far, thinkin' up a storm, moving his body up trees and across fields...couldn't ask for better (for, and from, him) right now.

There may come a day when I can sit him down for chess (or poker) but, right now, all that 'adult stuff' is 'boring' to him.
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Posted 09/29/13 - 2:57 PM:

What if we were in Alpine territory and had to heave our food stores into a cache to keep the bears away. Would that venue be appropriate for this kind of cultural critique? Sure would, in-between whatever the daily action was. Talk would be an enjoyable addition, like beer on a fishing trip. One could shrug off the words in that world, instead of having to be reminded of one's guilty conscience (might as well shoot oneself in the head).

The remedy for cultural disease is A) excessive and chronic use of booze, B) excessive and chronic use of spirits (delusions that help you live but never become delusions), C) work that you enjoy doing (pray it isn't cultural critique), D) a bullet to the brain (or in whatever mode you see fit).

Stop reminding me how disgustingly rotten I am. I don't really care anymore.








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Posted 09/29/13 - 7:02 PM:

Hey, morons, Satyr here. I am using Sabina's account just for this little message: She thinks I may be interested in your "tussle," but, from the looks of things, nothing more than gossip going on here.

Here is a link to a forum I frequent:
http://knowthyself.forumotion.net/

As does Sabina.
Though there she uses another moniker.
If one of you fags thinks you have what it takes ...I'm all ears.

My son is doing great, if anyone is interested.
Thanks for asking.
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If genetics is any factor then teaching and educating is but a minor factor.
You can train an ape to play chess, or the basic moves and the established tactics: the precedent and playing by decree, using recipes.
Imagination people: the root of creativity, thinking outside the box, and genus.

My son will be six, this November, and already he is exhibiting my imagination, and the sense of humor which is a byproduct of it.
He,loves making up fantasy scenarios and playing them out. He laughs and can recognize sarcasm and mimicry.
He was imitating others by four.
He already does multiplication.

Like his dad, he lacks patience, and persistence.
These I'll have to instill in him, or increase, as much as I can.

From what I can recall Henry Quirk I liked.
He had some brains.

The doc, on the other hand, was an imbecile: an old, stupid fuck.
A simpleton who is so common in our time that engaging with one of them is a waste of time, if you take it seriously, but if you consider it an experience with the increasing decay, then he, being a part of the majority, is fascinating ...as another sampling alone.







Edited by Sabina on 09/29/13 - 7:07 PM
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Posted 09/29/13 - 7:04 PM:

Hey Nihil Loc, do you know that you are really disgustingly rotten, and I don't care that you don't care.

Damn! Now I have to go back and read Sabina's post's to figure out what you are talking about. Be back later.
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Posted 09/29/13 - 7:07 PM:

Sabina wrote:
Hey, morons, Satyr here.
The doc, on the other hand, was an imbecile: an old, stupid fuck.
A simpleton who is so common in our time that engaging in one of them is a waste of time, if you take it seriously, but if you consider it an experience with the increasing decay, then he, being a part of the majority, is fascinating ...an a sample alone.



Thankyou, this way I don't need to try nearly so hard to come up to your expectations, but I'm really not sure I can reach that low.
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Posted 09/29/13 - 7:09 PM:

Sabina wrote:

Hey, morons, Satyr here. I am using Sabina's account just for this little message:



So, I was right.
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Posted 09/29/13 - 8:19 PM:

Why is this attitude of disgust toward the simple man (average human) so necessary?
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Posted 09/29/13 - 9:43 PM:

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend, that was just a bonus, and I thought that was what you wanted?
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Posted 09/29/13 - 10:45 PM:

My question was more oriented toward the OP. Who is this Satyr guy blazing terms like "fag" and "moron" and this Sabina woman whose got the dregs of humanity figured out in a nutshell. We know well enough they are beneath contempt (i.e. the average person).



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Posted 09/29/13 - 10:53 PM:

thedoc wrote:



So, I was right.
No, retard, as always you fail to read the entire text.

reread it. Satyr, I, intruded upon Sabina's membership, after she invited me and told me about this cesspool.
I had no clue about it, before.

Doc, you are the same imbecile you always were.
What a "simple man" like you should do, is stay home, read books, and play with your grandchildren. your opinion is worthless, because it is common.
Every-time I open the TV I hear it; every time I go to the bathroom I hear it.
You, and your kind, are not the solution but the problem.
Not unless you consider this fake superfluity (materialism and hedonism) a solution to mankind's pretend "problems".

You, are genetic garbage ...feces.
A byproduct of this disease, which allows every imbecile out there to replicate, and calls it his/her "RIGHT"!!!
Almost 8 billion of imbeciles, and growing ...the world will implode just by the sheer mas of stupidity.

I wish I could put it in a kinder way, but you coming on-line because you think you have something to say, open you up to this honesty.
If you watched TV, played with your kids, fucked your wife, enjoyed the simple things of life, and shut the fuck up, nobody would bother you, or bother with you.
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Posted 09/29/13 - 11:10 PM:

Ahh, now that's the Satyr I've come to know. Thankyou for restoring my faith that you have not changed from the first time I encountered you on line. Pity, but the couch was a reasonably nice place before, perhaps you will get bored and go away, there is hope.

Perhaps Liberty has something to say?
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Posted 09/29/13 - 11:13 PM:

Ahh, now that's the Satyr I've come to know. Thankyou for restoring my faith that you have not changed from the first time I encountered you on line. Pity, but the couch was a reasonably nice place before, perhaps you will get bored and go away, there is hope.

Perhaps Liberty has something to say?
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Posted 09/30/13 - 8:52 AM:

"From what I can recall Henry Quirk I liked. He had some brains."

HA!

Not an opinion shared by the majority: fuck 'em.

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"Perhaps Liberty has something to say?"

Despite her hard stance on 'attacks' I wish she'd just leave the thread be.

We're supposed to be 'big folks' here, with thick skins and a modicum of self-control (that is, no one is obligated to post or respond, no matter what perceived insult is offered).

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As I said over at 'philosophy now', some time back: a bear doesn't hunker down with wolves.
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Posted 10/02/13 - 7:29 AM:

Nihil Loc wrote:
Why is this attitude of disgust toward the simple man (average human) so necessary?
Because without it one is not motivated to rise above it.
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Posted 10/02/13 - 7:35 AM:

thedoc wrote:
Ahh, now that's the Satyr I've come to know. Thankyou for restoring my faith that you have not changed from the first time I encountered you on line. Pity, but the couch was a reasonably nice place before, perhaps you will get bored and go away, there is hope.

Perhaps Liberty has something to say?
Running for help, dear boy?

I know the idea of change, for change's sake, is for you a virtue because it turns your stupidity into open-mindedness, but change, when it comes to self-organizing, entities, is about need, in relation to environment.

Why would I change my stance in relation to the "god question" for example when nobody has provided me with information which would make me need to change?
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If you change your mind often it may be a sign that you are a gullible, naive, simpleton, and not really open minded, since you then settle for the next best comforting, self-flattering, lie. peace

From what I see the world of man has no changed, it has advanced as I predicted.

Any time you feel like testing your views against honesty, and not these contrived, politically-correct, backslapping, circle-jerking, politeness festivals where all leave the premises assured that no matter what they think, it is just as plausible as anything anyone else thinks, you know where to find me.

I doubt you have the testicles.
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Posted 10/02/13 - 7:37 AM:

henry quirk wrote:


"http://knowthyself.forumotion.net/"

As I said over at 'philosophy now', some time back: a bear doesn't hunker down with wolves.
And that you "hunker down" with sheep, means what?
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