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Posted 07/29/12 - 12:13 PM:
Subject: Are aliens Christians?
A question for Sunlight and anyone else who might have some thoughts on this.
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Posted 07/29/12 - 3:15 PM:

Any alien species that can develope technology will have previously developed a Mythology that would include a creator and one who will redeem them. It's a natural progression and there is no reason to think aliens would not have done so.
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Posted 07/29/12 - 4:51 PM:

libertygrl wrote:
A question for Sunlight and anyone else who might have some thoughts on this.



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good question liberty girl .if you trying to give me a headache you are succeeding ..he he he lol smiling face

GOD has made provision for this earth regarding salvation from sin through his son JESUS but whether he made the same provision elsewhere in the universe we are not told , but its possible
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Posted 07/29/12 - 7:12 PM:

dominant 7th

Which key?
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Posted 07/31/12 - 9:23 AM:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Case_of_Conscience
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Posted 08/01/12 - 9:45 AM:

thedoc wrote:
dominant 7th

Which key?

any key, i suppose smiling face i'm learning about dominant 7ths in music theory class
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Posted 08/01/12 - 9:45 AM:


cool thumb up
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Posted 08/01/12 - 9:49 AM:

SUNLIGHT wrote:
good question liberty girl .if you trying to give me a headache you are succeeding ..he he he lol smiling face

GOD has made provision for this earth regarding salvation from sin through his son JESUS but whether he made the same provision elsewhere in the universe we are not told , but its possible

interesting. well, the discovery of alien life forms could definitely make some folks question their beliefs in the bible, i would think. it depends, of course, on what the aliens are like and whether they have beliefs of their own.
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Posted 08/01/12 - 9:54 AM:

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Any alien species that can develope technology will have previously developed a Mythology that would include a creator and one who will redeem them. It's a natural progression and there is no reason to think aliens would not have done so.

i would say not necessarily so. we tend to form expectations on things that are familiar to us, but it could be that the discovery of an alien life form will turn everything we know on its head.

did you hear about the discovery of this bacteria that feeds on arsenic:

www.scientificamerican.com/...rticle.cfm?id=arsenic-life

before they discovered this bacteria, scientists previously thought there were only 6 life-sustaining elements: carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur. they never would have guessed they would find a bacteria feeding on arsenic. i think it could go that way with alien species as well.
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Posted 08/01/12 - 12:17 PM:

libertygrl wrote:

i would say not necessarily so. we tend to form expectations on things that are familiar to us, but it could be that the discovery of an alien life form will turn everything we know on its head.

did you hear about the discovery of this bacteria that feeds on arsenic:

www.scientificamerican.com/...rticle.cfm?id=arsenic-life

before they discovered this bacteria, scientists previously thought there were only 6 life-sustaining elements: carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur. they never would have guessed they would find a bacteria feeding on arsenic. i think it could go that way with alien species as well.



I had not seen that article about the bacteria but I had seen several programs about the diverse places life could thrive. Two things, there is no reason to believe that alien life is different than us, nor is there any reason to believe that it is the same, the mistake is to insist that it must be different. There is a Nova program called Origins where a biologist insists that any creature with a 'face' must have evolved on Earth. The falicy is to insist that parallel evolution is not possible. Evolution would favor the most effecient arangement, so you have the sense organs close to the brain on an extention that can be turned without turning the whole body. That would put everything in an arangement similar to a 'face' on a head. There is an exception in water creatures where streamlining is aparently more important than flexability.
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Posted 08/01/12 - 1:29 PM:

QUOTE LIBERTYGIRL :i would think. it depends, of course, on what the aliens are like and whether they have beliefs of their own
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Whatever beliefs aliens have got they must be in line with what their CREATOR and GOD has DECREED..they must at sometime bow the knee to JESUS who is the son of their creator and GOD .
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Philippians 2:10 >>


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that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth .
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notice it says ever knee in heaven will bow the knee to JESUS .smiling face

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Posted 08/03/12 - 7:03 PM:

SUNLIGHT wrote:

Whatever beliefs aliens have got they must be in line with what their CREATOR and GOD has DECREED..they must at sometime bow the knee to JESUS who is the son of their creator and GOD .


Why? o.O What if they didn't?

I never bowed to Jesus or God. I still exist to the best of my knowledge.

I'm failing to see your logic and reasoning here.

-Kin heart
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Why? o.O What if they didn't?

I never bowed to Jesus or God. I still exist to the best of my knowledge.

I'm failing to see your logic and reasoning here.

-Kin heart



Blind faith needs no reason or logic. However I would think any sentient being would go through several stages in their development. In the early periods primitive beings would attempt to explain the world to the best of their knowledge and this would give rise to Mythology. Later science might give better, more pragmatic explinations, but the religious dogma would be difficult to abandon. These belief systems could persist even in the advent of intersteller travel. Also there is no reason to believe that God and Jesus Christ did not appear to these aliens at some time in their history. There is nothing in the Bible or any other teaching to exclude visitations on other worlds, God and Jesus are under no obligation to inform us of such an occurance.
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Posted 08/04/12 - 8:01 AM:

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Why? o.O What if they didn't?

I never bowed to Jesus or God. I still exist to the best of my knowledge.

I'm failing to see your logic and reasoning here.

-Kin heart


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QUOTE "what if they dident ?

are they more poweful than GOD ?rolling eyes
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Posted 08/04/12 - 8:06 AM:

QUOTE THE DOC :Blind faith needs no reason or logic.
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faith in what GOD has written is not blind faith , it is a faith that believes that GOD knows what he is saying and he has the power to carry it out
, and it is written that without faith it is impossible to please GOD smiling face


Edited by SUNLIGHT on 08/07/12 - 7:48 AM
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Posted 08/04/12 - 8:11 AM:

QUOTE KINAOKO90 :
Why? o.O What if they didn't?

I never bowed to Jesus or God. I still exist to the best of my knowledge.

I'm failing to see your logic and reasoning here.

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What is written in scripture is not MY logic and reasoming , it is the logic and reasoning of the one who wrote the scripture rolling eyes
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Posted 08/04/12 - 1:00 PM:

The church leaders of the 2nd and 3rd century AD didn't do a very good job. Too many flaws.
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Posted 08/05/12 - 5:15 PM:

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The church leaders of the 2nd and 3rd century AD didn't do a very good job. Too many flaws.

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no church leaders whether in those days or today can prevent GODS message of salvation to reach his chosen ones by ALTERING or mistranslating bible scripture rolling eyes
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Posted 08/05/12 - 8:10 PM:

Blind faith is that which is accepted withour proof, and there is no proof of anything in the Bible, or claim from the church. All the prophecies are very general and non-specific so that anyone can take events and intrepret them to fit the prophecies. All the prophecies are intended to be individual and ongoing so that each person experiences the 'End of time' in his own time, and there is no world wide apoclypse. Just as there was no world wide flood, that was a local event that was retold over the generations and enhanced over time to make it more dramatic.
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Posted 08/06/12 - 9:56 AM:

QUOTE THE DOC :Blind faith is that which is accepted withour proof,
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Can ISLAM provide proof of its claims ? yet millions believe in it .....can HINDHUISM provide proof of its claims ?, yet millions believe in it smiling face
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Posted 08/06/12 - 4:56 PM:

Christianity provides no proof of it's claims, yet millions believe. Islam has the koran, just another version of the Christian Bible. Hinduism has the Vedas, Upanishads, Purāṇas, Mahābhārata, Rāmāyaṇa, Bhagavad Gītā and Āgamas. All are ancient texts with no current physical proof.

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Posted 08/07/12 - 7:55 AM:

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Christianity provides no proof of it's claims, yet millions believe. Islam has the koran, just another version of the Christian Bible. Hinduism has the Vedas, Upanishads, Purāṇas, Mahābhārata, Rāmāyaṇa, Bhagavad Gītā and Āgamas. All are ancient texts with no current physical proof.



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So please tell us doc , how do you provide PHYSICAL proof of somethging that is not physical but SPIRITUAL ?, and why do millions of christians -muslims and hindhus place faith in something for which there is no physical proof smiling face
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Posted 08/07/12 - 8:15 AM:

That is what I have been saying, that Christians, Muslems, and Hundus believe with out proof. So you agree that religion is based on blind faith. It is blind faith in the spiritual, without physical proof.
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Posted 08/07/12 - 9:02 AM:

thedoc wrote:
That is what I have been saying, that Christians, Muslems, and Hundus believe with out proof. So you agree that religion is based on blind faith. It is blind faith in the spiritual, without physical proof.

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so why do you yourself go to church doc ? do you place faith in ANYTHING in your church , if not why do you go ? ,and if you do then are you placing faith in something that you have no physical evidence for ?rolling eyes

Edited by SUNLIGHT on 08/07/12 - 2:43 PM
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Posted 08/07/12 - 11:26 AM:

The Lutheran church ceronomy is full of ritual and symbolism, and I find it interesting to think about the possible underlying meaning. There are 'articles of faith' that most take literally, but I quietly accept them in a spiritual sense. My faith is that there is meaning whether I know it or not. For example, the question "what is Heaven Like?" why should I worry and need to know, if I believe that God has it taken care of. "what exactly is God like?" Why do I need to know a precise answer to that questiion, there are too many different answers already, all claiming excelent backing. It really doesn't matter. God is what God is and that I don't know exactly, is OK. There are a lot of people who claim to have exact answers, some of these also claim that if you send them $500.00 God will bless you with whatever you need, and the even back it up with testamonials. Should I believe someone running a scam like this? I'm satisfied to learn what I can and leave the rest to God.
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