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Posted 07/05/12 - 1:05 PM:
Subject: Sun and Moon: Father and Mother
Barbara Pijjan Lama has briefly touched the intriguing relation between Sun and Moon in a horoscope and the role it plays in the life of a native, in deciding whether parents would mutually live in harmony or if tension between them would affect the native at all. The rule is simple--look for the house(preferably lagna chart) in which Moon is situated and then look for the house in which Sun is present. If the relation is 2/12 or 6/8--then parents don't live harmoniously and child is affected by their animosity. OTOH, if any one of 4/10, 1/4, 4/7, 10/1 angles exist in a native's horoscope--it means an easy composition--parents won't affect the child adversely.





Take an example: In a family, there are four siblings. Lets call them A, B, C and D. A has Sun and Moon angle 2/12, B-1/4, C-6/8 and D-7/10--A and C suffer because of the conflict between parents. D and B don't suffer and stay happily---what is the difference?




A and C have different type of Karma.


B and D have favorable Karma.


A and C chose to resolve the negative Karma of former incarnations--they chose this 2/12 combination. Now, this squirmish of parents would look like a play to B and D and they easily forget it. A and C are more spiritual charts and they have difficult Karma related to parents--therefore they absorb more of negative energy 'off' parents and transform more and more of it, thereby dissolving total Karma. A and C have difficult/spiritual charts in this regard.






Now consider another example: In a family--there are 5 siblings--S, D, F, G and H. D, F and G have Sun in 6th, 8th and 12th houses and Moon in 1st, 2nd and 10th houses respectively. S and H have Sun and Moon in (2/12) and (6/8) respectively.




All of them have same parents, but:


S----Sun is in 2(good relationship with father)
S----Moon is in 12(Bad relationship with mother or mother is missing)
S----Sun/Moon angle--2/12--S absorbs 'negative' vibrations from parents to 'trigger' hidden Karmic guilt and then transforms it into pure Savitas. He chose to do that.


D---Sun is in 6th(adverse relationship with father)
D---Moon is in 1st house(good relationship with mother)
D----Sun/Moon angle is adverse--similar to S.


Likewise we could derive various effects for other members.


Note: These are very general indications. In every horoscopes Sun and Moon being karkas for father and mother respectively, are important, but there are many other factors which contribute in a fuller reading(note: I said 'fuller' reading)--like for father--see--Sun, lord of 9th house, aspects on ninth house, aspects on lord of ninth, Rashi lord of radix dipositor of 9th lord. Navmasa lord of Sun and see all of these from both ascendant and Chandra kundli.


Likewise for mother: See Moon and the fourth lord combinations from both Lagna and Chandra Kundli.
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Posted 07/06/12 - 8:44 PM:

The Sun and Moon in historic times are equal in apparent size. this makes eclipses usefull for the study of each. Many millions of years either way and the Moon is either bigger or will be smaller in apparent size, the Moon is moving away from the Earth and has been since it was formed. Ages ago the tides were stronger and higher, ages from now the tides will be smaller and weaker, how will this effect life on Earth?
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Posted 07/06/12 - 8:49 PM:

Father and Mother are not equal in size nor are they equal in the influence on the children. Not all families fit the typical mold and children will be effected. Each parent is unique, and each child is unique, and the relationship between is unique, and few will fit into some contrived mold.
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Posted 07/10/12 - 2:53 AM:

thedoc wrote:
The Sun and Moon in historic times are equal in apparent size. this makes eclipses usefull for the study of each. Many millions of years either way and the Moon is either bigger or will be smaller in apparent size, the Moon is moving away from the Earth and has been since it was formed. Ages ago the tides were stronger and higher, ages from now the tides will be smaller and weaker, how will this effect life on Earth?


Do we have scientific evidence for the tides becoming weaker?
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Posted 07/10/12 - 8:56 AM:

Thinker13 wrote:


Do we have scientific evidence for the tides becoming weaker?



The tides are dependent on the gravitational attraction between the Earth and the Moon and the greater the distance the weaker the attraction. There is scientific evidence that the Moon is moving away from the earth. During One or more of the Moon Missions Astronauts placed reflectors on the Moon's surface and scientists can aim a Laser and measure the time for the light to get there and be reflected back. Since the reflectors were first placed it has been determined that the Moon is moving away from the Earth.
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Posted 07/10/12 - 9:45 AM:

thedoc wrote:



The tides are dependent on the gravitational attraction between the Earth and the Moon and the greater the distance the weaker the attraction. There is scientific evidence that the Moon is moving away from the earth. During One or more of the Moon Missions Astronauts placed reflectors on the Moon's surface and scientists can aim a Laser and measure the time for the light to get there and be reflected back. Since the reflectors were first placed it has been determined that the Moon is moving away from the Earth.



Oh, that should have come to me earlier, I have read that universe is expanding.
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Posted 07/10/12 - 10:48 AM:

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Oh, that should have come to me earlier, I have read that universe is expanding.



I believe that the expansion of the Universe and the movement of the Moon are not directly related. From what I understand the space between galaxies is expanding but within a strong gravitational field there is no expansion from this effect. I don't quite understand why this is so but thats my intrepretation of what I've learned.
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Posted 07/11/12 - 4:09 AM:

thedoc wrote:
I believe that the expansion of the Universe and the movement of the Moon are not directly related. From what I understand the space between galaxies is expanding but within a strong gravitational field there is no expansion from this effect. I don't quite understand why this is so but thats my intrepretation of what I've learned.



I doubt that. I think even distance between atoms is increasing and we are expanding but since we all are expanding we're not feeling it. The other day I was reading about Big Boom, which suggests that Big Bang is just part of what happened, that there are cycles of universes coming into existence and going out of existence. Very engrossing subject indeed.smiling face
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Posted 07/11/12 - 7:01 AM:

I have argued this point as well, for example if you are useing a tape measure to find the size of a piece of wood and that piece of wood were expanding you would get constantly bigger dimentions. But if the tape measure and you were also expanding at an equal rate the measurment would always be the same ant the expansion would be undetedtable. This is why I do not like the idea of space streaching. Here is something I posted a few years ago.

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My explaination of the large scale structure of the Universe. There are Cosmological theories that will be questioned. First "The expansion of the Universe is due to the stretching of space, which carries the galaxies apart". Second "The Big Bang was a singular event".

The large scale structure of the Universe is best explained by examining that structure. It has been compared to a mass of soap bubbles with the galaxies forming the walls surrounding large Voids (underdense areas). These voids are expanding at a uniform rate thereby expanding the Universe. The explaination given is that space is stretching and carrying the galaxies apart. I do not agree. Space does not stretch. It is perfectly fluid but does not stretch or compress. If space were stretching all space would expand. Not only between galaxies but also within them, within solar systems, within matter itself. Matter, molecules and atoms, are mostly empty space. If space were expanding the atoms in our bodies would expand, the planet and the instruments we use to measure the expansion, would expand. The expansion would be undetectable.

The Voids, and the Universe, are expanding because over time there is more space and matter in them. This new space is spreading and expanding the Universe. The Big Band was not a singular event, but the begining of a contuing process of creation. Within each Void, new space and matter is coming into existance. I believe this is the only theory that can explain the shape of the Universe today.

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