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Posted 07/02/12 - 8:34 PM:
Subject: The birth of troll culture
Did it exist before the internet? I'm sure it did, although I think the internet helped its popularity spread.

In many, if not most cases I see trolling as a symptom of boredom more than of malice, but certain behaviors like that of the Westboro Baptist Church at the funerals of fallen American military service members seem aggressively vicious and in my mind, unforgivable. They seem like they are there not only fishing for a fight but also gold digging for a lawsuit by getting the other guy to throw the first punch. So wrong. disapproval

Maybe the lesson in it is knowing how to walk away. I imagine trolls get such a great satisfaction knowing they can pull people's strings.

Or maybe the lesson is learning how not to expect every person to behave like a troll. How to keep from cynicism. How to get a sense of humor about it. Sometimes, though, crosses the line into not being funny. It stops being about the trickster and transforms into a sadistic impulse. Does the troll care whether you think it's funny or not? Would they rather see you snarl about it than laugh? Or vice versa?

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Posted 07/03/12 - 10:42 AM:

I feel that we all seek attention in some ways. Some of us are more aware and know that we are seeking attention while others do so without any glimpse of this awareness. I don't look down upon tendency to seek attention. In fact this urge is very deep down in our genes. Be it trying to seduce animals of other sex for mating or be it 'merely' getting compliments for our work, we animals seek attention in one form or another.

Actors, politicians, sports-persons earn their fortunes[Earning a fortune is paradoxical now. Isn't it?]by excelling in gaining attention. I know it's not the 'whole truth,' because what differentiates a hero from a troll is his virtues. It has been said that politicians, actors and other celebrities become so obsessed with the food of attention that they start doing stunts for more and more publicity; moreover, as soon as they move out of their walks and peaks of lives, their health and heroics start fading at a dramatic and alarming rate and the superhero who seldom used to look vulnerable and mortal starts appearing a fat rat or an ill potato. But I don't mean that there aren't any "live and die in grace," types. There are many who live a most balanced life and keep their Dharma in check till death.


Trolls are quite obviously not doing anything strange in the sense that it's in our nature to seek attention. It occurred to me that the superset of all sets, the almighty God is indeed our holy father, brother, mother and girlfriend; since he is so eager to gain our attention. No wonder it's our nature as well. Almighty feels mightier if he gets our attention; that's why all Gods in religions pay so much emphasis on 'name-calling,' more you call their names better they feel. They need 'more,' more and more! Every seer, Guru and Grantha stresses the importance of memorizing and chanting names of Gods.

No wonder Troll is Godlike. Yes, Gods in religions get angry, stone people and push them in wells; they disturb people by indulging into coitus with their wives, just to gain their attention. Trolls merely send 'harmless' words via mail--they don't burn, stone, torture or commit adultery to gain attention. We should not curse trolls. We should appreciate them for being more godlike than us. They are designed in a "purer" image of God.


Trolls don't know what happens inside their minds and that is why they act like zombies. They feel "forced" by their urge to gain attention and do all sorts of gymnastics day and night. Had they known that it's an urge inside their mind which makes them helpless they would never have become 'Trolls.' But then obviously, there wouldn't have been 'Trolls' as persons, though it might have been an idea!
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Posted 07/03/12 - 3:20 PM:

I do think of the trickster archetype as god-like - most mythologies have the trickster in some form or another. In some ways, trolling is a manifestation of that archetype. It is playful and mischievous. It may have a controlling effect but it does not really seek control in its essence. There are trolling behaviors which stray from the archetype, in such a way that I would suggest they may negatively impact one's karma if one is not paying attention to the effect it's having. The trickster, however, in its archetypal form is perhaps impervious to the workings of karma.
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Posted 07/04/12 - 1:52 AM:

'Trickster' angle did not come into my mind. But yes, they trick you into buying something, be it an idea or a product. Troll seeks attention and spamming might be a bit different in my opinion.

I categorize them in type A and B.

A, are desperate to gain attention of others. They cannot live without it and make it quite obvious and they try everything crossing boundaries between 'sensible' and 'otherwise.'

B, these people are 'genuinely trolls,' they just visit you to advertise a product or hack your account or something similar.


I don't really get offended by type A, because they need medical care--therapy and catharsis. It's 'B' 'the businessmen' who are a matter of real concern for me.
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Posted 07/04/12 - 1:54 AM:

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A fellow poster on Freedom of speech forum
An interesting [url= www.theatlantic.com/technol...et-troll/239420/]link[url]. "When Man First Met Troll". 1987 example of... something.
www.theatlantic.com/technol...an-first-met-troll/239420/

One problem with the commentary and comparison to celebrities grabbing attention: Internet trolls thrive on anonymity, celebrities don't.



I did not intend to really compare celebrities or God with trolls. But food for thought is: Trolls are most insecure attention seekers. They want to stay anonymous and want to gain attention. You may say that they really want to gain attention for their "mind," or say "expressed mind." By singing or playing an instrument, by dancing, by acting and by various other means we seek attention for our various planes of existence. This doesn't hold good as a universal thought, but as an opinion.
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