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libertygrl
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Posted 07/02/12 - 6:16 PM:
Subject: Do you believe in magic?
However you would like to define it. smiling face
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Posted 07/04/12 - 3:18 AM:

This thread was lost in the oblivion, perhaps because of the splurge of so many threads on board. I think, after a "silent" period last fortnight, it was very "active" phase last week on this board, which is good. I feel that sometimes even if I am not engaging in 'debates' with other members, other posters stop posting frequently if I write too often on too many threads. But then, may be it's just an illusion. In any case, I love it when many people write together, than just filling all threads with by BLABBERWOCKYING! I liked MPG guild because there were at least 10 regular posters including Willem, Xanthos, Henry and me(for a while.) Sadly, forum collapsed soon after I started scribbling. Even Freedom Of Speech forum has a range of "learned" people. smiling face

I think I have always believed in Magic and Science together. Magic is mystery. I used to get mesmerized by magicians in my childhood and I started learning magic tricks. I learned a great deal of card tricks and similar tricks by reading books and watching "how to learn magic," shows. I think part of everyone of us believes in magic, mystery and Gods. We are born into cultures which believe in them and very few of us, if any, really get converted into "hard core critical" thinkers. Phantasmagoria of silver screens and various technology tools are "magic" unless you start analyzing things.

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Posted 07/04/12 - 11:34 AM:

I like when there's a lot of activity too, but keep in mind that sometimes seasons of dormancy breed fertile ground for future growth. Cycles of rest make for more energetic cycles of activity. smiling face And some folks seem to prefer unmoderated discussion, which is understandable, although it's not for me and my delicate sensibilities, lol.

I like your definition of magic. I feel like nowadays I'm encountering more and more people who don't seem to believe in magic, who seem to believe there is no such thing - that things may appear magical, perhaps, but they never are and there's always that disillusionment waiting behind the curtain.
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Posted 07/04/12 - 11:47 AM:

libertygrl wrote:
I like when there's a lot of activity too, but keep in mind that sometimes seasons of dormancy breed fertile ground for future growth. Cycles of rest make for more energetic cycles of activity. smiling face And some folks seem to prefer unmoderated discussion, which is understandable, although it's not for me and my delicate sensibilities, lol.

I like your definition of magic. I feel like nowadays I'm encountering more and more people who don't seem to believe in magic, who seem to believe there is no such thing - that things may appear magical, perhaps, but they never are and there's always that disillusionment waiting behind the curtain.



Some good points out there. I think that is true about magic--'reasoning' becomes apparent sooner or later but then universe, dark energy, soul, religions etc are ever magical and mysterious.

Yes, I agree with you on 'fertility' thing as well. It's important to have 'breaks.'smiling face
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Posted 07/05/12 - 12:52 PM:

Don't know much about what is called 'magic'.

Certainly: I reject super/supranatural hooey, but, from what I gather, a significant portion of magic *practice seems to be about 'self-programming' (doing certain things and being aware of certain things around you so as to capitalize on those things when they cross your path). If this is the case: then 'magic' is more about self-editing and definition than hocus-pocus.

Too bad it's all muddled with hooey... wink









*I’m thinking here specifically of the Chaos Magicians and their brand of focus and self-control.
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Posted 07/06/12 - 10:10 PM:

Magic, as in 'slight of hand' is simply a matter of directing the attention away from what is happening to what you want people to see. Magic, as in sorcery, witchcraft, and the like, needs to be demonstrated in a reliable setting to be confirmed. Magic, as in the occult, and ghosts and the supernatural needs to be demonstrated in a reliable setting to be confirmed. Magic in religion is accepted on faith without proof, end of discussion.
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Posted 07/10/12 - 2:54 AM:

thedoc wrote:
Magic, as in 'slight of hand' is simply a matter of directing the attention away from what is happening to what you want people to see. Magic, as in sorcery, witchcraft, and the like, needs to be demonstrated in a reliable setting to be confirmed. Magic, as in the occult, and ghosts and the supernatural needs to be demonstrated in a reliable setting to be confirmed. Magic in religion is accepted on faith without proof, end of discussion.



I agree. Miracle is the word used in religions and it's a cornerstone of all cults. thumb up
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