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libertygrl
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Posted 05/06/12 - 9:22 PM:
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I can't imagine how such a thing could be possible - if it were, it would certainly speak to the idea of an eternal soul. But let's presume for a moment that it's possible to swap lives with someone else - just for the day. Would you do it? Would such an idea appeal to you? Why or why not?
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Posted 05/06/12 - 10:01 PM:

libertygrl wrote:
I can't imagine how such a thing could be possible - if it were, it would certainly speak to the idea of an eternal soul. But let's presume for a moment that it's possible to swap lives with someone else - just for the day. Would you do it? Would such an idea appeal to you? Why or why not?



I would like to talk about something related before I try to answer the questions you ask. I have often spoken about Neptunian dissolution of boundaries. It's, for me, getting into the skin of people with whom I interact on a da-to-day basis. Since my childhood, I have been a sponge-like absorber of surrounding energies, positive and negative, and I have carried out mental dialogue of others, often without much awareness, only to realize, in the final moments of such talks that 'I am not him'. That is where I find myself confined in the boundary of my physical body after having spent enough time being other(s).

I have often wondered, especially in young childhood, about how people think about me, about others and about world in general. There has always been this yearning to break confinement of this physical body, to feel like infinite others and I feel at some levels I did break this boundray, temporarily.

I would like to ask one question to you lib, before I answer your question: What would be swapping of life? Getting surroundings of the other subjects while retaining our memory or forgetting everything of this identity altogether?
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Posted 05/07/12 - 8:49 AM:

"Would you do it?"

No.

I like my life, with me in it, as it (and I) am.
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Posted 05/07/12 - 9:17 AM:

@henry ah, i suspected wink

@thinker i guess i sort of had in mind like they do it in those disney films and others where two people trade bodies for the day - still retaining all their memories. i guess you could sort of think of it as a "remote control", where you control someone else's body for the day, and they control yours.

well, i guess there are two ways you could go about it. (probably more, but let's start with 2)

option A: you are still you but you control the other person's body and create new memories for yourself using their body, while the memories they create while using your body are not for you to have when you "get back". so in other words you lose a day's worth of memories in your own body while you gain that day's worth of memories in the other person's body.

option B: let's say the technology permits it so you can "trade" a day's worth of memories that you have already experienced. so let's say you agree on trading the memories from last saturday. you don't get to control the other person's actions, just experience their experiences as they already happened. and vice versa.
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Posted 05/08/12 - 3:01 AM:

lib wrote:

@thinker i guess i sort of had in mind like they do it in those disney films and others where two people trade bodies for the day - still retaining all their memories. i guess you could sort of think of it as a "remote control", where you control someone else's body for the day, and they control yours.

well, i guess there are two ways you could go about it. (probably more, but let's start with 2)

option A: you are still you but you control the other person's body and create new memories for yourself using their body, while the memories they create while using your body are not for you to have when you "get back". so in other words you lose a day's worth of memories in your own body while you gain that day's worth of memories in the other person's body.

option B: let's say the technology permits it so you can "trade" a day's worth of memories that you have already experienced. so let's say you agree on trading the memories from last saturday. you don't get to control the other person's actions, just experience their experiences as they already happened. and vice versa.


Ah, it's clear now. I will go for option 'B', as I have always wanted to feel world from others' viewpoint.
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Posted 05/08/12 - 8:54 AM:

"henry ah, i suspected"

I'm so predictable in my dotage.

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"I have always wanted to feel world from others' viewpoint."

Why?
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Posted 05/08/12 - 9:35 AM:

henry quirk wrote:


"I have always wanted to feel world from others' viewpoint."

Why?


Because, I so clearly know how it feels to be myself. I think we have covered this in another thread, long back. It's impossible to feel like others. True empathy is not possible, it's almost always our versions of 'how others feel' based on which we react to others. I don't say that our feelings don't matter, in fact, they're what matters most to us, and they're actual determiner of our behavior.

But to be able to feel "exactly" how others feel is something which might change our behavior to the best towards others.

Or at least we would be having an idea, about what we are doing to others.
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Posted 05/08/12 - 5:47 PM:

"Would you do it?"
No.

"Would such an idea appeal to you?"
About as much as a forced and unnecessary lobotomy.

"Why or why not?"
My life and all its baggage is precious to me and my days are numbered. Why would I give even one day away for something that would deprive me of all that is precious to me (and give me essentially nothing in return)?
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Posted 05/09/12 - 11:22 PM:

libertygrl wrote:
I can't imagine how such a thing could be possible - if it were, it would certainly speak to the idea of an eternal soul. But let's presume for a moment that it's possible to swap lives with someone else - just for the day. Would you do it? Would such an idea appeal to you? Why or why not?



What are your ideas on it, lib?
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Posted 05/14/12 - 12:07 AM:

Oh, I would definitely be keen on trying it - option B, that is. I'm very curious what it's like to walk in another's shoes. And I would also be keen on letting someone try walking in mine. Of course, the experience could potentially be a very vulnerable one. I wonder how it would affect a person's relationship with the other person they traded with. What if two romantic partners tried it for a day? Would it strengthen their relationship? Or potentially destroy it?
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Posted 05/14/12 - 5:10 PM:

i would totally do it for a day
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Posted 05/14/12 - 10:09 PM:

henry quirk wrote:

"I have always wanted to feel world from others' viewpoint."

Why?


Agreed, I have enough of my own problems, why would I want anyone else's.
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