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Thinker13
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Posted 02/02/12 - 8:31 AM:

Welcome Starjade. smiling face


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Posted 02/02/12 - 9:39 AM:

Starjade,

I'll reserve a (public) assessment of 'sane' or 'insane' until after you pony (or fail to pony up) up evidence to support your claim.

As I told you elsewhere: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Your claim ("I am the "Chosen One"...I am The Living Gods Son and long awaited Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 Prophet") is extraordinary.

So: have you any evidence to offer that (1)Deuteronomy in particular (or the Bible as a whole) is anything but well-intentioned hooey, and -- assuming you can offer evidence as to the validity of Deuteronomy -- (2) can you offer any evidence that you are who or what you say you are?

Keep in mind: you opened the door...I just walked through.
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Posted 02/04/12 - 12:11 PM:

Oh well, here we go again.
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Posted 02/04/12 - 1:21 PM:

thedoc wrote:
Oh well, here we go again.



Where have you been, all these days? How are kids doing?
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Posted 02/04/12 - 5:34 PM:

hi starjade, welcome to the couch. not much traffic in these parts for sharing your message, but it's good of you to stop in. hug
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Posted 02/04/12 - 6:16 PM:

Thinker13 wrote:



Where have you been, all these days? How are kids doing?


Hello, Thanks for asking, things have been busy, takeing care of the grandkids, trying to replace the gastank on my truck, and finding time to practice on the piano. There have been a few posts that looked interesting but nothing that grabbed me and haven't had any good ideas on the existing threads. Be patient sometimes I'm a bit slow.

The kids are doing well, we decided to try ASL with the grandaughter with the idea that once she learned to sign the words it would be easier to substitute the spoken word for the sign. But now everyone else has to learn it as well. Raising children is always an adventure.
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Posted 02/06/12 - 8:55 AM:

Starjade wrote:


Perhaps it is the Doc who need an assessment of insanity. Or is it already known he is mad.




Bingo, and Henry can attest to that.

Years ago I read that all are enlightened but just don't know it, so I decided that since I was already enlightened I would skip the hard work and play with my grandchildren.

If you just want music without having to play it there are CD players that will do that, and I'm sure someone would be glad to fix you up with a light show to go with it, or just pick something on Youtube.

Sanity is much over-rated.
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Posted 02/06/12 - 8:58 AM:

Starjade, why don't you add to our little story, to get it going again?
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Posted 02/06/12 - 11:17 AM:

Starjade wrote:
So far though none of you has suggested that my claims of being the Chosen One meaning that very specific long awaited Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 Prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up in the Midst of the descendants of Abraham are insane.

So that acceptance must also mean your agreed belief that the Living God hath sent me along as a warning. That then is an indication also of the existence of the Living God. laughing and others ponder upon Gods extstence when all along it was staring them all in the face. peace




How do you define or describe a living God?
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Posted 02/06/12 - 11:35 AM:

Starjade wrote:
So far though none of you has suggested that my claims of being the Chosen One meaning that very specific long awaited Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 Prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up in the Midst of the descendants of Abraham are insane.

So that acceptance must also mean your agreed belief that the Living God hath sent me along as a warning. That then is an indication also of the existence of the Living God. laughing and others ponder upon Gods extstence when all along it was staring them all in the face. peace




Or it could be indifference, and that it's not worth commenting on.
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Posted 02/06/12 - 11:43 AM:

Starjade wrote:
Piano practise eh? I found an electric organ and it plays itself. As it plays the keys light up. The advantage is I do not need to practice, I just switch on and it does all the practice for me.

I suggest you get one Doc. Save you some Time. Of course you can also save Time by getting a pocket watch. You can then put Time in your pocket saving it for later? thumb up


An electric organ that plays and lights up, sounds like a fun toy. Perhaps when you grow up you will appreciate the accomplishment of doing something yourself.

I have a pocket watch, but I prefer to keep my time in a bottle, stores better and doesn't get lost by falling out.
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Posted 02/06/12 - 12:32 PM:

I have a See and Say Machine.

The cow says "Moooooo."

That is mystical and magical, isn't it? cool
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Posted 02/07/12 - 2:23 AM:

'The Sanity Claus' is such a playful choice of a thread title. I don't know if it was deliberately chosen to be so. It might be a play on 'Santa Claus' or on 'The Sanity Clause'. The play on the former might suggest that you're presenting a madman, who dresses up like Santa, and the latter might mean that it's related to 'The Clause Which Ascertains Sanity'. The latter seems to be more related to the lines along which have been discussing in this thread ( Or the former?). In any case, I found this thread title to be a most playful one. Thank you, Starjade.
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Posted 02/07/12 - 2:28 AM:

Franny wrote:
I have a See and Say Machine.

The cow says "Moooooo."

That is mystical and magical, isn't it? cool



A thinker ( I have forgotten the name, guess I am getting older day by day) said that there are only two ways to look at the world: One, as if everything you see is a miracle and another as if nothing is a miracle. I do not subscribe to his idea though.
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Posted 02/07/12 - 2:33 AM:

thedoc wrote:





Years ago I read that all are enlightened but just don't know it, so I decided that since I was already enlightened I would skip the hard work and play with my grandchildren.



The tricky part of it was 'don't know it'. The moment you read that you're enlightened or you're told by someone you're, you don't get enlightened unless you really get enlightened. It's one of the best jokes I have read on enlightenment, lately. smiling face


Sanity is much over-rated.


Could you please elaborate it?
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Posted 02/07/12 - 10:01 AM:

*sigh*

You've offered not a whit of evidence the Bible is anything other than hooey.

That is: you've jumped the gun. Before any of your claims about yourself can be taken seriously, the foundation for those claims (religious law, Deuteronomy) must be shown to be valid.

You haven't done that.


Also: let me correct some obvious mistakes...

You say, "More than two or three witnesses is enough to establish if a thing is true or not in accord with religious law."

Only if the religion in question is valid. But, if the religion in question is hooey, then PFFFTT!

Example: three folks swear they saw a unicorn...they even pass lie detector tests...did they see a unicorn? That is: does the testimony of three confer 'realness' to unicorns?


You say, "That evidence does include prophecy of two earthquakes and a volcano erupting and having a hand in a recognized miracle right here on earth followed by further facts of many prophesied signs in the heavens."

Well, saying the evidence exists and actually offering it are two very different things.

I want to see some kind of time-stamped evidence of your predictions AND evidence of the actual events.


You say you have "witnesses to back up such claims".

Names, please...with a means of contact to go with those names.


You say, "Fraud said reality is defined as being a state of collective perceptions".

HA! I'm sure you meant 'Freud'...irony... wink

Freud, by the way, was wrong. Reality is defined by what is REAL. No other definition holds water. Coke-addled Sigmund was also fond of exaggeration and bullshit.

Example: even if every last person in the whole friggin' universe believes fire is 'cold' this does not change the fact that fire is 'hot'.


I could dissect further, but I'm time-pressed, so, address the above as you can and like, Starjade.

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Doc: how go matters on other fronts?

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Franny: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Posted 02/07/12 - 2:58 PM:

Franny wrote:
I have a See and Say Machine.

The cow says "Moooooo."

That is mystical and magical, isn't it? cool



That really sounds like fun, My grandaughter has a toy that is a base and a pair of blocks, and on the blocks are the pictures of different animals that if you get the front and back of the animal lined up in the base correctly it makes the sound of that animal, sort of. The person we bought it from said it came with a built in headache but the grandaughter hasn't quite got the idea yet, so the asprin is still safe. I wonder if Starjade could cope with anything that sophisticated.
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Posted 02/07/12 - 3:17 PM:

henry quirk wrote:
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Doc: how go matters on other fronts?


Well the grandaughter turned 2 in Nov. and still isn't talking but we figure she's just being stubborn, we want her to talk so she decided she isn't going to. We are working with ASL and that seems to be OK with her, we're hoping that she will decide that it will be easier to say the word than sign it.

The grandson seems to be really excited about Kindergarten,and riding the bus. The play that they send home for 'Homework' is a little bit of a problem but he usually jumps right in to do it, but getting everything in one place and ready to go is the biggest problem.

The daughter was about half way through school for 'Massage Therapy' but the school seemed to be going down the shiter so she switched schools and seems to be excited. She really likes the subject and had an almost 4.0 average, but didn't like where the school was going.

The wife's work is still sort of down, the printing business isn't very good these days, they did not diversify into copies and are now suffering for it. The storage space rentals seems to be keeping things going right now. I've been trying to find some way to help but it would need to be something I could do at home while I take care of the grandkids. Very limited with my particular set of skills.

Oh, if you were refering to other less important issues, things are looking good from my point of view, I just don't know how much effect it will have on the outcome. I'm hopeing the lawyer will be able to use the forgery issue to my advantage.
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Posted 02/08/12 - 9:33 AM:

Starjade wrote:

Starjade says; Well you are not very impressive as a Doc then if you were not even curious.


Good because I'm not trying to impress.

I am on another forum where a poster is claiming to have a solution to all the evil in the world, that would eliminate hurt and make was impossable and it occures to me that you could help that person out in her quest.

I have encountered other juvenile trolls on the internet claiming to be a god or goddess, and I am not impressed or curious.

Have fun for now but don't call me, I'll call you?
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Posted 02/08/12 - 9:45 AM:

thedoc wrote:




Have fun for now but don't call me, I'll call you?



kooky

Now, what is this doc? My little brain is getting dizzy. disapproval
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Posted 02/08/12 - 9:50 AM:

"As for my statements. I have backed them up and under the religious law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verses 15 onwards."

If Deuteronomy is hooey (and you've offered nothing to change my mind on that), then your claim about who you are is hooey too.

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"The Hebrews do not dispute those claims. So I have done that.

I'm not a Jew. I think Judaism is hooey. I don't care what Jews have to say on this matter.

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"The law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verses 15 onwards is a law that determines matters of the truth regarding any crimes of iniquity or sin.

If Deuteronomy is hooey then that 'law' is hooey too.

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"Isaiah believed in unicorns. Why could they not exist?"

Isaiah was wrong. His believing doesn't make unicorns 'be'. As to why they can't exist: unicorns are, by definition, magical creatures...there is no magic, hence there are no unicorns.

Oh, I imagine some horse could be gene-tailored to have a narwhale horn, but this makes the horse a mutant freak, not a unicorn.

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"Rob Brockers, Steve Conche, Jeff Thompson"

I'm on it.
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Posted 02/08/12 - 9:52 AM:

"things are looking good from my point of view"

Good. Keep me in the loop, if you would... wink
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Posted 02/08/12 - 9:56 AM:

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Starjade says; The Living God is Spherical in shape and a dazzling brilliant white in Colour.

In the vast dark of the Abyss when I turned to look upon the Living White Sphere. That is what I saw. A dazzling White Spherical Entity. I had just flown out from its central core.

I was not in a position to know how fast I was travelling to comprehend that distance from the inner centre of the Sphere to the outside of its mass, to be able to judge the actual size of this Spherical Entities mass. Or how far I had travelled beyond into the dark of the Abyss.

I can say this Spherical entity is alive and it thinks. It is a collective individual. It flies around under its own power at fantastic speed beyond the Veil of the Abyss and into places unknown to me and yet to be explored. The Abyss is in deep space. It is an actual place and not something of imagination.

The Veil of the Abyss when I passed through it was not very far from this Planet.

It is not a simple thing to define the Living God. I simply describe it colour and shape. I add that it is a collective individual and I am just a small part of its energy. The Living White Sphere generates a lot of power that is astonishing. It is without doubt very powerful.



Do you think that there are things, beyond God, I mean things more powerful than God?
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Posted 02/08/12 - 4:11 PM:

I'll have to agree with doc.

Starjade, I don't need any more gods right now, but if one of them dies, I'll call you!
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Posted 02/08/12 - 4:14 PM:

Starjade wrote:


~snip~

Starjade says; Yeah please do try and find some error in my words as I do find that most entertaining. You were not detailed or specific leaving me to be presumptuous in your meaning.

~snip~


Oh, let me, please.

"...do try TO find some errors in my words..."

You'd think a god would have some sort of handle on language, or at the very least could conjure up a basic understanding of language.
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