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Posted 12/10/11 - 7:09 AM:
Subject: The Color of The Sleaze?
In a recent Language-Log post here: http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=3612, the author has discussed about how yellow color refers to obscenity and prostitution in China. An intriguing question was posed by a reader in following comment.

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So the colour of sleaze is yellow in China, pink in Japan and blue in English-speaking countries. It's green in Spanish. Why should a particular colour end up having sleazy connotations, and why should it end up being such different colours in different languages? Curious.


What do you think about the reasons for such variance across the cultures in the way different colors denote different things?

OTOH, red color is used to represent danger in almost every culture.

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Posted 12/12/11 - 1:12 PM:

I think it's a matter of simple associations. Perhaps the color of someone's flag at one time, or maybe someone wrote a play in which the main character wore a certain color, and then became a famous villain wearing that color. I've never heard of blue being the "color of sleaze" in English-speaking countries, maybe it's a UK thing? I don't know. But I believe in early films, it was very common for the villain to wear black and the hero to wear white. Of course, in contemporary films (for example The Matrix), you don't really see filmmakers adhering to these color schemes.

Still, the use of color symbolism is to me very intriguing and effective. I think Kubrick made some interesting use of color in his films, and also I'm a fan of Zhang Yimou and his use of color in various films (Curse of the Golden Flower, Hero, House of Flying Daggers, etc).
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Posted 12/12/11 - 1:23 PM:

libertygrl wrote:
I've never heard of blue being the "color of sleaze" in English-speaking countries, maybe it's a UK thing?


May be. I quoted the comment verbatim. But at least in India, 'blue' is widely accepted as having reference to obscenity when it comes to movies. Porn movies are called 'blue films' over here.

However, these connotations in India are recent and not mythological in my opinion. Hindu lord Shiva is often called 'Neela-Kantha' ( Neela: blue; Kantha: throat) because he swallowed the poison which came out of the mythological churning of the great ocean!




Still, the use of color symbolism is to me very intriguing and effective. I think Kubrick made some interesting use of color in his films, and also I'm a fan of Zhang Yimou and his use of color in various films (Curse of the Golden Flower, Hero, House of Flying Daggers, etc).



Indeed.

Mention of Kubrick reminded me of his most private movie ( as per his own confession): "Eyes Wide Shut". I was reading about these conspiracy theories and 'Bohemian Grove'. Have you ever given thought to the uncanny similarity between Bohemian Grove and the secret society shown in Eyes Wide Shut?


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Posted 12/15/11 - 5:09 PM:

i've not seen bohemian grove. is it good? what's it about?
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Posted 12/16/11 - 3:40 AM:

libertygrl wrote:
i've not seen bohemian grove. is it good? what's it about?



Again: I wonder why, because it has mostly to do with US.

Bohemian Grove is not a movie, but there are many documentaries out there all over the internet.

It's a conspiracy theorist's conjecture or a real group depending upon whether you give hoot to them or not.

It has been asserted that nobody becomes US president without taking part in Bohemian Grove rituals.

Bush senior and Junior, Clinton, Blair and many others have participated in rituals before they reached to their respective thrones.


This might be or might not be plain bullshit, but I cannot just believe that you have not heard or read about it. disapproval




The guy in 'Eyes Wide Shut' who was warning Protagonist ( Tom Cruise) to not to go into the secret society rituals was so powerful and had uncanny resemblance to Kissinger ( Bohemian Grove).

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Posted 12/30/11 - 4:57 PM:

ah, i don't have much interest in conspiracy theories so it's no wonder i haven't heard of them.
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Posted 12/31/11 - 12:14 PM:

libertygrl wrote:
ah, i don't have much interest in conspiracy theories so it's no wonder i haven't heard of them.



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