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Thinker13
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Posted 11/04/11 - 1:59 PM:
Subject: Mortal soul!
I was playing a quiz where most appropriate answer of question‘ What does mortal means’? is ‘soul’. What a pity! English gives such shocks to me at times!

In “He is a mortal” and “He is a single soul around”—’mortal’ and ‘soul’ seem like synonyms but soul by its very definition is eternal and cannot be mortal!

What do you make of such an Oxymoron as Mortal soul?
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Posted 11/04/11 - 2:30 PM:

To be 'mortal' is to be finite life span.

To be ensouled is to have or possess an immortal (not-finite in life span) spirit or substance.

A paradox!

More properly, though: the expression is 'his or her immortal soul'.

But, yeah: English is a queer thing.
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Posted 11/07/11 - 5:55 PM:

Henry's right here 'Immortal Soul' is the more common expression.

And just what do you expect from a language that is a combination of several different languages in it's makeup. I once heard that it was Latin Grammer with German words, and that was just to start. I also heard That it was no wonder that Germany and France were always at war, the Grammer of both languages was very different so they could never understand each other and always mistook what the other was saying. Latin to French for Grammer, and German vocabulary, it's no wonder that the English were always in the middle of the fighting.
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Posted 11/08/11 - 1:21 AM:

thedoc wrote:
I once heard that it was Latin Grammer with German words, and that was just to start. I also heard That it was no wonder that Germany and France were always at war, the Grammer of both languages was very different so they could never understand each other and always mistook what the other was saying. Latin to French for Grammer, and German vocabulary, it's no wonder that the English were always in the middle of the fighting.


It seems that whatever you heard has immense significance in Linguistic-social studies. The other day I was studying theory about Aryans. In order to decide whether they came from outside India or were there since beginning many theories have been put forth leading you nowhere. What is important is to see the role language plays in unlocking many mysteries. thumb up
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Posted 11/10/11 - 2:28 PM:

there are actually various definitions of "soul", check out merriam webster's:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soul

one that i've heard very often is that which refers to a soul as a person. so one might say that a "mortal soul" refers to the body while an "immortal soul" refers to the spirit.
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Posted 11/10/11 - 2:43 PM:

libertygrl wrote:
there are actually various definitions of "soul", check out merriam webster's:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soul

one that i've heard very often is that which refers to a soul as a person. so one might say that a "mortal soul" refers to the body while an "immortal soul" refers to the spirit.



I agree with the usage. My objection would sound valid only if you consider the meanings which you consider when you consider only meanings which strike you most hard; which is not worth considering actually.

I mean--I got acquainted with the meaning 'soul' as 'synonym of Sanskrit 'Atman'' which is 'quintessential everlasting entity'. Thereafter secondary meanings were introduced to me and hence the slight confusion.


And even 'atman' is used variously as 'soul' is used in various contexts!

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