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libertygrl
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Posted 07/25/11 - 6:44 PM:
Subject: a question about art
probably an age-old question.

does something have to be intended as art to be art?
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Posted 08/02/11 - 9:02 AM:

Art, I think, is in the eye of the beholder...as it probably should be.

The 'artist' shouldn't worry at all about whether what he or she crafts is 'art' or not.

'Art' has a shifting definition anyway...what's a 'treasure' today is crap tomorrow.

Do the work: others will assess it as they will.
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Posted 08/02/11 - 12:11 PM:

how about a waterfall? is it art?
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Posted 08/02/11 - 12:31 PM:

henry quirk wrote:
Art, I think, is in the eye of the beholder...as it probably should be.

The 'artist' shouldn't worry at all about whether what he or she crafts is 'art' or not.

'Art' has a shifting definition anyway...what's a 'treasure' today is crap tomorrow.

Do the work: others will assess it as they will.


I agree with most of it. Highlighted part is the one with which I agree most!
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Posted 08/02/11 - 12:34 PM:

libertygrl wrote:
how about a waterfall? is it art?


A waterfall is just a waterfall. It might well be an art for a painter, a musician or any other artist. There is nothing 'hard and fast' or say objective about 'waterfall'.
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Posted 08/02/11 - 12:41 PM:

if a hiker comes upon a waterfall and believes that it is god's creation, they find it beautiful and an example of "god's art", does it qualify in that case?
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Posted 08/02/11 - 12:44 PM:

libertygrl wrote:
if a hiker comes upon a waterfall and believes that it is god's creation, they find it beautiful and an example of "god's art", does it qualify in that case?


Yes, it does. Not a thousand philosophers can prove otherwise to that artist and proving does not matter at all.
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Posted 08/02/11 - 12:47 PM:

I hate the word, 'art'.

But it's what you gave me to work with, so...

Art is crafted, made...a waterfall is a natural occurrence, so -- no -- the waterfall, while lovely, is not 'art'.

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...god's creation...

Then let the 'artist' step up and claim the 'work'... wink
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Posted 08/03/11 - 11:46 AM:

henry quirk wrote:
...god's creation...

Then let the 'artist' step up and claim the 'work'... wink

ha, that works
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Posted 08/03/11 - 4:53 PM:

henry quirk wrote:
I hate the word, 'art'.

But it's what you gave me to work with, so...

Art is crafted, made...a waterfall is a natural occurrence, so -- no -- the waterfall, while lovely, is not 'art'.



A question or two...

Would you consider anything that was crafted or made as art?
And by 'crafted' does the crafting have to be intentional?

quirk wrote:


...god's creation...

Then let the 'artist' step up and claim the 'work'... wink


laughing
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Posted 08/04/11 - 8:51 AM:

"Would you consider anything that was crafted or made as art?"

No. A rule of thumb: all 'art' is crafted, but not everything crafted is 'art'.

Moot point, however, since -- again -- 'Art...is in the eye of the beholder...' and ' 'Art' has a shifting definition...what's a 'treasure' today is crap tomorrow.'


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"does the crafting have to be intentional?"

Well, as I see it: crafting is always intentional...if there is no 'intent' then there is no 'craft'.
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