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Posted 06/06/11 - 6:18 AM:
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I had a flight yesterday.

This is triggered by your signatures lib. What triggered your signatures? Moreover: Why do we have signatures and what motivates us to change them?

What could be assessed about the personality by the signatures?

[ I am familiar with Graphology and I realize that these signatures might be used similarly but what are your views?]
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Posted 06/08/11 - 12:19 PM:

for the longest time, as you may recall, i had the signature "diversity is a survival mechanism". this one was first inspired by a long and interesting conversation with my then-boyfriend, who is a neuroscientist. he was telling me some interesting things about evolution related to how a species with the most diversity is the more likely to survive. in doing studies on a certain species of bird, he was telling me, scientists found that there was a sort of "diversity" generator built in to the DNA, i forgot how he explained it exactly. but it was totally fascinating. and this trait, he said, is a survival mechanism for a species.

that being the case, it behooves us to embrace diversity. with humans there is an obvious tendency toward homogenization, but there is also a tendency away from it too. it was something that i wanted to always remind myself of. and that is how it came to be my signature for a very long time.

well, lately i've been wanting to embrace more diversity within myself. and that's how i came to start changing my signatures more frequently, to suit my moods, and to reflect on ideas passing through my mind. often my signatures of late are a comment on a recent dream (like this "blanket in a can" from today), although some of them have been based on conscious ideas, and memorable quotes.

"jump out of the plane" was a funny one. it occurred to me a few nights ago while i was in bed, preparing to go to sleep. sort of in a meditative daydream, the very vivid image came to me of being in an airplane, the hatch wide open and a parachute on my back. my heart was pounding, i could see the ground down below, miles and miles away and the wind was whipping by. oh god, i thought to myself, i don't think i can do this. yes, you can, i said. just jump.

Thinker wrote:
What could be assessed about the personality by the signatures?

[ I am familiar with Graphology and I realize that these signatures might be used similarly but what are your views?]

i have studied graphology myself for many years. in one's handwriting, the signature is the writing of one's name, usually for official purposes such as entering into a legal contract or committing money to someone (by writing a bank check, for example). many people put a moderate amount of effort into having a signature that reflects the image they want to portray of themselves to the world. thus the signature may have some correlations with the sun sign in astrology - as such, it is only revealing to a certain extent. more than anything it reveals what the individual himself wants to reveal.

a more informative analysis would of course come from a close look at the signature together with the body of work coming from the individual. in handwriting analysis, this means looking at a full sample page of writing and comparing it to the signature to see how it is similar and how it differs. on a message forum, however, a signature has a different function so what looking for what it reveals about the personality is probably not too different from analyzing anything else posted by the same person.

interesting topic, this is something i have been thinking about myself lately thumb up
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Posted 06/14/11 - 5:36 AM:

lib wrote:
for the longest time, as you may recall, i had the signature "diversity is a survival mechanism". this one was first inspired by a long and interesting conversation with my then-boyfriend, who is a neuroscientist. he was telling me some interesting things about evolution related to how a species with the most diversity is the more likely to survive. in doing studies on a certain species of bird, he was telling me, scientists found that there was a sort of "diversity" generator built in to the DNA, i forgot how he explained it exactly. but it was totally fascinating. and this trait, he said, is a survival mechanism for a species.

that being the case, it behooves us to embrace diversity. with humans there is an obvious tendency toward homogenization, but there is also a tendency away from it too. it was something that i wanted to always remind myself of. and that is how it came to be my signature for a very long time.

Great!

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well, lately i've been wanting to embrace more diversity within myself. and that's how i came to start changing my signatures more frequently, to suit my moods, and to reflect on ideas passing through my mind. often my signatures of late are a comment on a recent dream (like this "blanket in a can" from today), although some of them have been based on conscious ideas, and memorable quotes.

"jump out of the plane" was a funny one. it occurred to me a few nights ago while i was in bed, preparing to go to sleep. sort of in a meditative daydream, the very vivid image came to me of being in an airplane, the hatch wide open and a parachute on my back. my heart was pounding, i could see the ground down below, miles and miles away and the wind was whipping by. oh god, i thought to myself, i don't think i can do this. yes, you can, i said. just jump.

Relation with dreams is intriguing, but, what I do not understand is, your taking ‘change’ for ‘diversity’. Is changing your signatures very often, a suggestion, that you are embracing diversity?
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i have studied graphology myself for many years. in one's handwriting, the signature is the writing of one's name, usually for official purposes such as entering into a legal contract or committing money to someone (by writing a bank check, for example). many people put a moderate amount of effort into having a signature that reflects the image they want to portray of themselves to the world. thus the signature may have some correlations with the sun sign in astrology - as such, it is only revealing to a certain extent. more than anything it reveals what the individual himself wants to reveal.

a more informative analysis would of course come from a close look at the signature together with the body of work coming from the individual. in handwriting analysis, this means looking at a full sample page of writing and comparing it to the signature to see how it is similar and how it differs. on a message forum, however, a signature has a different function so what looking for what it reveals about the personality is probably not too different from analyzing anything else posted by the same person.

interesting topic, this is something i have been thinking about myself lately

Indeed, I think, it might reflect more recent mood of a person (compared to the posts done by the person which are undoubtedly result of a long process in thinking) in case he/she is changing it often enough. In case, people do not change them too often, it might tell their long held belief(s).
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Posted 06/14/11 - 9:34 AM:

"What triggered your signatures?"

'Non Serviam' is a statement of policy and perspective...it seems to work for me...*shrug*
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Posted 06/15/11 - 1:02 PM:

Thinker wrote:
Indeed, I think, it might reflect more recent mood of a person (compared to the posts done by the person which are undoubtedly result of a long process in thinking) in case he/she is changing it often enough. In case, people do not change them too often, it might tell their long held belief(s).

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Relation with dreams is intriguing, but, what I do not understand is, your taking ‘change’ for ‘diversity’. Is changing your signatures very often, a suggestion, that you are embracing diversity?

too much of the same = not enough diversity

see also the merriam webster definition

embracing diversity within myself would mean welcoming new and differing influences and allowing these to be reflected in my outward expression smiling face
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Posted 08/31/11 - 9:54 PM:

Thinker13 wrote:
Where did 'Maid of honor mayhem' come from?

this last weekend i was the maid of honor in a good friend's wedding. do you have "best man" and "maid of honor" in indian weddings, or something similar? just curious. in american weddings, the best man and maid of honor are expected to provide a lot of help with the wedding. it was a pretty stressful week smiling face
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Posted 09/01/11 - 2:06 AM:

I forgot to read this. No, there is nothing similar to that in Indian weddings lib. Are you, or, anyone else near you, suffering from 'acute bronchitis' lib?
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Posted 10/10/11 - 1:17 PM:

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Who are 'keepers of buttons'? you can respond in any thread ( and if you want to respond at all!) smiling face

this signature was inspired by a phenomenon of human behavior that i have observed while riding the elevators many times throughout the day at my work.

occasionally, it happens that a person gets on the elevator who prefers to stand next to the elevator buttons (so they can press them, for themselves and for others). sometimes, the person will so aggressively want to stand next to the elevator buttons that they will squeeze into the small space between the buttons and another person who was already standing there, even bumping or nudging the other person out of the way. sometimes they will stick their arm out to hold the elevator door open, thereby preventing anyone else from being able to push the buttons themselves as they enter the elevator. they will call out to other people in the elevator, asking them which buttons they wish pushed so they can push the button for them.

in general, i run into this behavior occasionally, maybe once or twice a week on average. but the other day, it happened several times in one day, inspiring me to give these people the title of "keepers of the buttons".
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Posted 10/10/11 - 1:28 PM:

libertygrl wrote:

this signature was inspired by a phenomenon of human behavior that i have observed while riding the elevators many times throughout the day at my work.

occasionally, it happens that a person gets on the elevator who prefers to stand next to the elevator buttons (so they can press them, for themselves and for others). sometimes, the person will so aggressively want to stand next to the elevator buttons that they will squeeze into the small space between the buttons and another person who was already standing there, even bumping or nudging the other person out of the way. sometimes they will stick their arm out to hold the elevator door open, thereby preventing anyone else from being able to push the buttons themselves as they enter the elevator. they will call out to other people in the elevator, asking them which buttons they wish pushed so they can push the button for them.

in general, i run into this behavior occasionally, maybe once or twice a week on average. but the other day, it happened several times in one day, inspiring me to give these people the title of "keepers of the buttons".



Oh, very interesting. I also observe similar behavior though slightly less frequently. I prefer to stand as far as possible from buttons. The other observation of yours ( that people press buttons even if they're already pressed, is also true and hints towards automatons!)

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Posted 10/14/11 - 2:48 AM:

What's my signature again ?


edit: Oh yes, still that one. Actually it was given to me by some gaming friends. Back when www.galaxisonline.com was still fun to play. smiling face
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Posted 11/04/11 - 1:41 PM:

What about 'wave mambo'?

One question: If I remember, either on MPG or here on The Couch, signatures used to survive with the posts, but now it seems it isn't so.

I mean, will it not be just wonderful to preserve your signatures with the posts as a relic and as a representative of the mood and feeling of that particular time when you created those posts.


As of now, as soon as you change your signatures they get changed all across the forum. I am not suggesting that everyone would like such a thing and I am also not aware of the changes required(and their complexity!) in PHP code for affording this, but just expressing a view. smiling face
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Posted 12/05/11 - 2:12 PM:

Why avocado lib?
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Posted 02/14/12 - 2:42 PM:

wave mambo: just a description of how i was feeling at the moment. the intersection and interaction of thousands of wave-lengths doing their little mambo.

avocado: just a word of appreciation for one of the greatest vegetables ever.

bhangra: i've been learning various disciplines of dance. bhangra is one that's really shaking up my life! i've also been changing my diet lately to be more nutritious, also shaking up my life in a "bhangra" way smiling face
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Posted 02/15/12 - 2:11 AM:

libertygrl wrote:
wave mambo: just a description of how i was feeling at the moment. the intersection and interaction of thousands of wave-lengths doing their little mambo.

avocado: just a word of appreciation for one of the greatest vegetables ever.

bhangra: i've been learning various disciplines of dance. bhangra is one that's really shaking up my life! i've also been changing my diet lately to be more nutritious, also shaking up my life in a "bhangra" way smiling face




That's superb. I think we don't have Avocado here in India or I just happen to have not come across it in menu.

Upon skimming through Wikipedia article, I realized that I have indeed come across Avocado milk-shake in a menu but did not try it.

What makes it 'One of the greatest vegetables,' in your opinion, lib?

I could not fail noticing two things:

1. Nutritional Value of Avocado:
Wiki wrote:

Nutritional value
Avocados have diverse fats. For a typical avocado:

About 75% of an avocado's calories come from fat, most of which is monounsaturated fat.
On a 100 g basis, avocados have 35% more potassium (485 mg) than bananas (358 mg). They are rich in B vitamins, as well as vitamin E and vitamin K.[30]
Avocados have a high fiber content of 75% insoluble and 25% soluble fiber.[31]
High avocado intake was shown in one preliminary study to lower blood cholesterol levels. Specifically, after a seven-day diet rich in avocados, mild hypercholesterolemia patients showed a 17% decrease in total serum cholesterol levels. These subjects also showed a 22% decrease in both LDL (harmful cholesterol) and triglyceride levels and 11% increase in HDL (helpful cholesterol) levels.[32] Additionally a Japanese team synthesised the four chiral components, and identified (2R, 4R)-16-heptadecene-1, 2, 4-triol as a natural antibacterial component.[33]

Due to a combination of specific aliphatic acetogenins, avocado is under preliminary research for potential anti-cancer activity.[34]

Extracts of P. americana have been used in laboratory research to study potential use for treating hypertension or diabetes mellitus.[35]




2. Your mention that you are starting to prefer more and more of nutritious diet these days.


But does this 75% fat calorie don't make it a bit risky?

I think however, that I cannot assume that just because you like this vegetable much, you're really consuming it a lot.

Edited by Thinker13 on 02/15/12 - 2:21 AM. Reason: Avocado!
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Posted 02/15/12 - 12:36 PM:

i love avocadoes for the taste =) alas, they are very fattening. eating an avocado is like eating spoonfuls of butter straight out of the tub. so yes, it has been a while since i've had one. but they are great on sandwiches. probably great in smoothies too.
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Posted 02/15/12 - 12:51 PM:

oh, and i could eat guacamole all the live long day. grin
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Posted 02/15/12 - 11:35 PM:

libertygrl wrote:
oh, and i could eat guacamole all the live long day. grin



wink Do you remember the last time you used this smiley?


This is just 'wide smile' with teeth out, but it seems like an evil smiley, that is why I avoid it mostly, but I use it more frequently on Microsoft Office Communicator Suite.

I think reasons might be: Green color and contorted face.


What do you think, lib?
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wink Do you remember the last time you used this smiley?

i do not, lol. do you?

to me it is a very mischievous smiley, not evil necessarily but very playful. kind of as if to say "i know i'm misbehaving" grin or "perhaps this should not be funny to me but it is" grin

i think there are other contexts in which it may apply, for example "i am very proud of myself" grin clap takes a bow

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Posted 02/16/12 - 1:23 PM:

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i do not, lol. do you?

to me it is a very mischievous smiley, not evil necessarily but very playful. kind of as if to say "i know i'm misbehaving" grin or "perhaps this should not be funny to me but it is" grin

i think there are other contexts in which it may apply, for example "i am very proud of myself" grin clap takes a bow




Neither do I. I did a search for your posts and I could not see in the available list of 500 results ( spanning 20 pages, until year 2011) even a single use of this smiley.

I distinctly remember that when I first registered at MPG, I used to get offended by this smiley in particular. laughing


After having used symbol : D on various forums, when I observed that doing the same here results in this smiley, I realized that it's not that offensive.

But in other suites I have used, I find smileys equivalent to this one more jolly. This smiley, as I mentioned earlier, perhaps because of the green color, contorted face and big white frontal teeth, seems to be a bit evil to me.

This is also an amazing piece of information that you interpret it differently. Well, it must not be a subject of such a shock after all, as we all interpret gestures, expressions and words differently and it applies to persons with-in and without the same culture.


I think, I might start a small thread on smileys but I don't know how that would proceed.


My frequency of having used smiley, here in The Couch forum, in descending order would be:

1. smiling face

2. zen

3. laughing


4. thumb up

5. peace hug

6. shaking head

7. nod cool sticking out tongue sisyphus

8. raspberry clap disapproval kooky crying raised eyebrow rolling eyes eek heart


As far as I can remember, I have not used a thumb down smiley or a mad smiley.


A few remarks on fellow members' usage of smileys:

[Since these are based on my fallible memory, I apologize for wrong estimates or attributions in advance. smiling face ]



Henry most often uses: wink

Monk2400 most often uses: cool

Willem ( Smokinpristiformis) most often uses: sticking out tongue


raised eyebrow ---> This smiley has most extensively been used by Monk2400 and Nihil Loc in my opinion.


hmm Has most often been used by Willem.


heart hug Have most often been used by libertygrl.


peace takes a bow have been used by Monk2400 mostly.


blush This smiley has rarely been used: I have found Henry and Monk2400 both using it exactly once!

*nerd* Xanthos used it once, so did libertygrl. No other instance in my memory.



clap This smiley has been most frequently used by libertygrl.
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Posted 02/16/12 - 1:34 PM:

lol, yes, those are very good observations! i would agree on every point.
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