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Thinker13
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Posted 05/13/11 - 4:02 AM:
Subject: Space Odysseys
I read through an interesting thread 'A Thousand Years' by lib, in Thinking Spot. I also keep on speculating about many things similar to that.

If you have enjoyed watching '2001: A Space Odyssey' or you have reflected upon some other such works, then, you might consider the fact that most of the estimates about space have been incorrect.

I read somewhere, that by the year 2050 we will start driving air bikes and air scooters; well, that does not seem impossible yet, highly improbable by the pace of the things ( but since you can take into the account some 'sudden leaps', it cannot be entirely repudiated)

Arthur C Clarke imagined a world in which we were capable of reaching to Jupiter by 2001; but even in 2011, the ( proposed) fact that any man ever stepped on Moon is a moot point.

Is it: that the progress on the front of space has been much less than what was imagined ?

What do you think?

Do you think that space Odysseys similar to those shown in 2001: A Space Odyssey would become possible by 2050 or by 3001 for that matter?

[ I think such estimates often get setbacks by random events]


Do you think that two world wars have made it difficult for man to step outside this planet or they have helped it?
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Posted 05/13/11 - 8:59 AM:

The technology (practical, and tested as proof of concept) to explore the solar system has been around for decades (Project Orion/nuclear pulse propulsion).

We coulda been to Pluto and back (coupla years round trip) years ago.

Kennedy (President) (and each of those advising him at the time) was a p***y...*shrug*
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Posted 05/13/11 - 5:31 PM:

flying cars are already being developed:

http://www.pal-v.com/

there are a lot of different problems slowing the evolution of various technologies. genuine concern for safety is one issue, and the struggle for power while holding other contenders back in the name of safety seems to be another issue. of course, it takes money too to make stuff happen, and the people holding the money bags have their own issues and power struggles to lay on the table.

i think wars in general hinder human evolution. to a certain extent, though, i don't think wars can be helped, not always. there's a certain amount of restless energy and friction running amok on the planet, and while i think it's best we try to resolve such friction as humanely as possible, i don't think it's possible to get rid of it completely, only push it around in different directions. at best, try to channel it into something productive.

i'm fascinated by the idea of travelling in space. not just outer space, but space in general. like the space i'm walking between this block and the next. the space in the elevator. the bipedal mobility of our species and others. the distance between people, both literal and emotional. i'm seriously fascinated. there are a lot of possibilities to explore.

Thinker wrote:
Do you think that space Odysseys similar to those shown in 2001: A Space Odyssey would become possible by 2050 or by 3001 for that matter?

absolutely. an unexpected scientific breakthrough could happen at any moment that could radically change everything. i mean, i myself remember a time when there were no cell phones, no cordless phones even. no microwaves. no dvd players, no vcr players, and so on. no internet!! if i had to make a guess, i would say yes, by 2050, space travel could be much more prevalent and by 3001, accessible to the common individual.

haven't seen the film yet, though, i've got it on order from amazon!
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Posted 05/17/11 - 2:01 AM:

lib wrote:
there are a lot of different problems slowing the evolution of various technologies. genuine concern for safety is one issue, and the struggle for power while holding other contenders back in the name of safety seems to be another issue. of course, it takes money too to make stuff happen, and the people holding the money bags have their own issues and power struggles to lay on the table.

To a T.


lib wrote:
i think wars in general hinder human evolution. to a certain extent, though, i don't think wars can be helped, not always. there's a certain amount of restless energy and friction running amok on the planet, and while i think it's best we try to resolve such friction as humanely as possible, i don't think it's possible to get rid of it completely, only push it around in different directions. at best, try to channel it into something productive.

You are right. Entertainment industry like institution of prostitution do channelize to some extent such energies and so do spirituality and art!

lib wrote:
i'm fascinated by the idea of travelling in space. not just outer space, but space in general. like the space i'm walking between this block and the next. the space in the elevator. the bipedal mobility of our species and others. the distance between people, both literal and emotional. i'm seriously fascinated. there are a lot of possibilities to explore.

Indeed. Relationships are all about good balance of space. All the frictions in almost all the relations revolve around this space pointer which is pointing to somewhere between zero space to extreme space. Boredom is lack of space because of your tormenting flood of thoughts.

lib wrote:
absolutely. an unexpected scientific breakthrough could happen at any moment that could radically change everything. i mean, i myself remember a time when there were no cell phones, no cordless phones even. no microwaves. no dvd players, no vcr players, and so on. no internet!! if i had to make a guess, i would say yes, by 2050, space travel could be much more prevalent and by 3001, accessible to the common individual.

That would be great indeed! I realize that there has been much progress on other fronts when compared to space technologies and that seems to be cause owing to which not much has happened ( compared to what was imagined!)


lib wrote:
haven't seen the film yet, though, i've got it on order from amazon!

Great!
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Posted 05/17/11 - 2:05 AM:

henry quirk wrote:
The technology (practical, and tested as proof of concept) to explore the solar system has been around for decades (Project Orion/nuclear pulse propulsion).

We coulda been to Pluto and back (coupla years round trip) years ago.

Kennedy (President) (and each of those advising him at the time) was a p***y...*shrug*



That is really intriguing. What I really wonder is: The 'corruption'/ 'political' factor has always been there. There must have been something wrong because of which many visionaries imagined space travels like 2001: A Space Odyssey to be possible by 2001. It seems to be too advance than the actual.
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Posted 05/18/11 - 2:05 PM:

"What I really wonder is: The 'corruption'/ 'political' factor has always been there"

As far as nuclear pulse propulsion: the problem isn't corruption, but ignorance....lots and lots of know-nothings make decisions about shit they haven't a clue about.

Such a mook hears 'atomic' or 'nuclear' and his or her sphincter tightens...makes for bad leadership.
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Posted 05/19/11 - 2:29 AM:

I agree.
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Posted 07/19/11 - 11:56 AM:

this comic reminded me of this topic:

abstrusegoose.com/strips/hu...s_get_your_ass_to_mars.png
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Posted 07/19/11 - 2:42 PM:

libertygrl wrote:
this comic reminded me of this topic:

abstrusegoose.com/strips/hu...s_get_your_ass_to_mars.png



heartbreaking. :-/
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