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Nihil Loc
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Posted 05/01/11 - 2:18 PM:
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What do you folks make of the tendency to set up a positive belief system based on quantum mechanics? I'm talking about the New Age theories put forth through documentaries like What the Bleep Do We Know and Quantum Activist.

A lot of 'seriously objective' people shrug it off but when you think about it as part of a positive outlook, can it be justified over something like the beliefs of fundamental Christianity?

How should one go about evaluating such theories?
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Posted 05/01/11 - 10:00 PM:

that's funny, i was just thinking on this topic myself yesterday. i haven't seen the quantum activist (is it good?), but i've seen "what the bleep", also we've talked about "the secret".

as for me, i've had positive results using the principle of visualizing + actualizing desired outcomes as described in the secret. it's difficult, though. it takes a tremendous amount of focus sometimes. but every single time i've made a concerted effort to achieve a particular goal using this method, it has gone exactly the way i envisioned.

there's a tremendous amount of skepticism in the world, fueled by anger & pain of previous disappointments, heartbreaks, traumas, and so on. there's a prevalent fear of success. success is something many people may think they want, but it's a scary prospect really. sometimes "successful" people may seem like total douchebags, lol. but not only that, by achieving success you make yourself a prime target for criticism, hatred and envy. and on top of that, by allowing yourself to feel real joy & happiness, you open yourself up to feeling real pain as well, pain that you may have been able to disconnect yourself from for the most part.

this has been my experience, anyway. i don't think it has to be that way, though. i don't think it's necessarily so that living well has to corrupt you. and i think if there were larger masses of people who were open & flexible to working with quantum mechanics in such a way as described in these films, it would be faster & easier to get results collectively, i mean i really think the difference would be noticeable. i think we would be able to manifest things in a way that was obvious. but because there are so many people subscribing to opposing belief systems, i believe they're creating & reinforcing contradictory realities. does that make sense?

what are your thoughts, nihil?

Edited by libertygrl on 05/03/11 - 5:07 PM
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Posted 05/01/11 - 11:24 PM:

NL wrote:
How should one go about evaluating such theories?

oh, i had intended to comment on this earlier. at this point, i don't think there's a lot we can do other than try things out for ourselves and see if they work. positive attitude isn't the end-all be-all, but i do think there's an obvious correlation between positive attitude and achievement. the question, among many (questions), is how much value does achievement actually hold for an individual? a person has to want something bad enough to begin with, they have to believe they can achieve it, and then they have to act on that desire. without those three things, it's almost a guaranteed fail. it takes a lot of hard work & responsibility, and the willingness to face risk and disappointment. these challenges make a difficult environment for maintaining a positive attitude.

Edited by libertygrl on 05/01/11 - 11:53 PM
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Posted 05/02/11 - 12:21 AM:

Hi,
Great topic!
I have not watched the documentaries mentioned. I like watching all the movies with ‘Parallel Universes’ concept though. ‘The Butterfly Effect’ is my favorite among all such movies. I like ‘Back to the Future’ as well.
I personally imagine many times that most of us are moving between various universes based on our frequency of vibration. I imagine often that this memory (that we belonged to another universe) is erased in such a powerful manner that we retain nothing of another universe (perhaps just a very subtle suggestion deep inside!). All of the memories are woven in such a way that we feel that all of the details (which we retain right now) seem like they were always there. It seems that I myself moved between many such parallel universes and they have too many details similar to each other but they have many subtle differences as well. Most of us move between these universes without ever being aware of them but a few of us are aware, especially those who have attained meditative awareness of being ‘Drashta’ or ‘witness’ to the phenomenon

[It all seems like fiction I know, unless it does, it is not truth!]

As far as attitude is concerned, I do believe that quantum mechanics and possibility of moving into an entirely new universe opens a great portal for all of us. In the conventional universe, for example, if your loved ones are not with you, there are no chances of meeting them again; but in the parallel universes you can meet them and stay with them forever, so, no place for regret or grief; you can change it as soon as you become aware of it!
Do let me know your thoughts,
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Posted 05/02/11 - 12:34 PM:

All I can say is that I like the idea of being tuned into a greater consciousness. Mind over matter carries with it the potential for change effected by a free will and QM brings a bit of mystery, magic and intrigue to the universe.

I do agree that success can be a scary prospect.
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