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Posted 07/26/11 - 2:01 PM:

This is only movie apart from Memento, where, I find myself unable to interpret. I doubt any possibility of ever coming to a level where I would be able to say "Yes, I understand what exactly happened!".

I so love this portrayal of dream like imagery in movies. David Lynch is master of it and this is my first Lynch movie!It seems to be an underrated movie in my opinion!
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Posted 07/26/11 - 3:17 PM:

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This is only movie apart from Memento, where, I find myself unable to interpret. I doubt any possibility of ever coming to a level where I would be able to say "Yes, I understand what exactly happened!".

you're talking about mulholland drive? i have not seen it. also have not seen final installment of harry potter (yet). i will add mulholland drive to my queue. also i have not finished space odyssey due to it being very long & i was a bit tired when i started watching it. so i've only seen the first third of it so far.

I so love this portrayal of dream like imagery in movies. David Lynch is master of it and this is my first Lynch movie!It seems to be an underrated movie in my opinion!

have you seen his television show, twin peaks?
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Posted 07/27/11 - 1:10 AM:

Well, the nicest stories in a movie used to be those based on real life, where you can get a grasp how people deal with their life situations.

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Posted 07/27/11 - 5:09 AM:

libertygrl wrote:

you're talking about mulholland drive? i have not seen it. also have not seen final installment of harry potter (yet). i will add mulholland drive to my queue. also i have not finished space odyssey due to it being very long & i was a bit tired when i started watching it. so i've only seen the first third of it so far.



Odyssey does seem to be a bit slow in pace, like, many other Kubric movies; but pain is worth taking in my opinion! I highly recommend Mulholland Drive; Naomi watts has done an amazing job. We might share ideas after you watch Harry Potter.


have you seen his television show, twin peaks?


No, I have not. Mulholland Drive is first work of Lynch which I have seen!
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Well, the nicest stories in a movie used to be those based on real life, where you can get a grasp how people deal with their life situations.




This movie is also based on the real life characters. What strikes you most is the dream like narration. This narration is so dream like that it seems as if you are watching a dream.

For me, the most thorough and enjoyable narration was a story told in an Indian tv serial, which was actually a dream of a very young girl. Since then, there has never been anything similar to Mulholland Drive ( Inception reaches near it, but has a message!)
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Posted 07/31/11 - 10:07 PM:

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Well, the nicest stories in a movie used to be those based on real life, where you can get a grasp how people deal with their life situations.

have you seen "amelia"? i think you would like that one.
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Posted 07/31/11 - 10:08 PM:

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This movie is also based on the real life characters. What strikes you most is the dream like narration. This narration is so dream like that it seems as if you are watching a dream.

For me, the most thorough and enjoyable narration was a story told in an Indian tv serial, which was actually a dream of a very young girl. Since then, there has never been anything similar to Mulholland Drive ( Inception reaches near it, but has a message!)

mulholland drive will be here tomorrow. had dinner with a friend tonight who also likened it to memento in terms of not being able to make sense of it. am looking forward to checking it out.
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Posted 08/01/11 - 12:39 AM:

Do check out 'Inland Empire'. It's one of the best movies I have ever watched. It has much psychological weight, so to say, therefore watch it when you're fresh and energetic. This movie is 'literally mind blowing'. Your mind stops working! None has ever been able to interpret this one ( though people have tried to interpret Mulholland Drive!). Lost Highway is also a similar movie from the same director and it has the great intensity and dream like imagery!

I regret why Lynch directed just 6-7 movies! I wanted to see more 'dream-like' movies.

The best of all movies( for me) would be my( or anyone else's) dreams projected on a screen and played indefinitely! If they're my dreams it would be even more better!
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Posted 08/01/11 - 10:56 AM:

thinker you should check out "biutiful" - at times very dreamlike (and neptunian). it's my new favorite movie of all time.
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Posted 08/01/11 - 11:32 AM:

Hmmm! Javier Bardem again! Tags say 'Drama'! Most of my favorite movies are Mystery/Thriller/Horror [ I should be more open minded!]. Will definitely watch it soon! Thanks for the recommendation lib!
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Posted 08/01/11 - 12:00 PM:

Most of my favorite movies are Mystery/Thriller/Horror

it has some elements of all of the above, i think you will like it thumb up
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Posted 08/02/11 - 2:41 AM:

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have you seen "amelia"? i think you would like that one.





Not jet, will see at you tube ;-)

Just watched recently flowers for Algernon on you tube.zen

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Posted 08/05/11 - 1:02 AM:

Morgena wrote:
Not jet, will see at you tube ;-)

Just watched recently flowers for Algernon on you tube.zen

also check out "temple grandin", quite excellent thumb up
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Posted 08/07/11 - 5:14 AM:

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thinker you should check out "biutiful" - at times very dreamlike (and neptunian). it's my new favorite movie of all time.



I watched it and liked it. thumb up
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Posted 08/08/11 - 12:04 AM:

cool.

just finished mulholland drive. i have to say i was not liking it very much throughout the film. i thought it was so esoteric that there was no way lynch was going to make it any level of coherent by the end. however, after seeing the very last 5 minutes of it, i thought it was quite brilliant. it does manage to come full circle.
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Posted 08/08/11 - 12:09 AM:

p.s. i recommend checking the first three seasons of 'twin peaks', if you have time. (it's downhill after the 3rd season IMO)
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Posted 08/08/11 - 12:27 AM:

'Inland Empire' is even more absurd and touches deeply because of sound tracks and visuals. I like his movies because they are akin to dreaming: More than anything ever made by any film/TV director.

Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me: I have watched but not the TV series.

The rabbit sequence in 'Inland Empire' is most subtle subconscious content ever filmed IMO. Great work!
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Posted 08/08/11 - 12:51 AM:

'fire walk with me' was pretty good. at the time i saw it, i thought it was pretty scary. probably would not think so much now. the show is much better, though, IMO. it has much more to offer in terms of interesting character development.
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'fire walk with me' was pretty good. at the time i saw it, i thought it was pretty scary. probably would not think so much now. the show is much better, though, IMO. it has much more to offer in terms of interesting character development.


'Inland Empire' and 'Lost Highway' are also most scary movies I have ever watched.


Have you watched 'The White Ribbon'? It's also a great mystery movie. One of the best I have ever watched!
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Have you watched 'The White Ribbon'? It's also a great mystery movie. One of the best I have ever watched!


After you watch movie, you might be interested to read this interpretation : www.imdb.com/title/tt114936...49362/board/nest/166095443

I found it to be very good.
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i don't think i feel brave enough to watch inland empire or lost highway. i remember when lost highway was in the theaters, it received much critical acclaim. also starred one of my favorite actors at the time, bill pullman. still, i steered clear of it. sounds too scary for me.

last night i saw "following" (nolan). most excellent! love the non-linear!

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Posted 08/11/11 - 11:46 PM:

here's a thoughtful analysis of mulholland drive, in case you haven't already seen it:

mobile.salon.com/entertainm.../mulholland_drive_analysis
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Posted 08/12/11 - 12:44 AM:

wow, have you seen this one? an amazingly thorough interpretation:

www.imanisystems.com/Mulhol...olland_Drive_Analysis.html
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Posted 08/12/11 - 1:18 AM:

Thanks for those links lib. Non-linear is essentially creative and it has opened a new vista in the world of narratives, but, I question: What next? Until when this love of non-linears will be there?

Mystery has much to do with two things: 1. Uncertainity of observed: partially because memory is almost always vague and gets hazier as days pass by.

2. Concealed facts and lack of information: unanswered questions.

True mystery movies never reveal. That is why they never bore you.

David Lynch has taken dreams as a medium. Even ordinary dreams are quite mysterious by themselves and when you're watching dreams of someone on screen, it will make for most mysterious thing you ever witness.

Again: The mystery as "where do people go after death"?
or "What are limits of universe"?
"Why there is existence"?

are different than the types of mysteries which are known to some other people but not to us. These are in world of memories, people, events and dreams and rely on aforementioned factors of memory and lack of information!
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Posted 08/12/11 - 1:27 AM:

Thanks for this wonderful discussion on this very thread lib. I hope that this thread will help us understand more about stories and movies and would prove to be a good source of recommendation of good movies. This definitely seems to be slightly inclined to Mystery/Suspense/Horror movies though.


What I feel is: Lost Highway is a bit scary but could be managed to watch. The real problem seems to be with 'Inland Empire'. The horror is not essentially gore in this movie but very psychological and very blunt. The horror is because it treads through unknown and unforeseen territories of our own subconscious and these movies do treat some archetypes IMO. They are cathartic in nature.
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