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henry quirk
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Posted 04/06/11 - 3:42 PM:
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A radio PSA encourages the listener --- if he or she is aware of software piracy -- to report such things to a government agency.

Assuming I gave enough of a damn to be concerned about any particular example of software piracy: I'm way more inclined to simply contact the originator (or copyright holder) of the software than I am to run, snitch-like, to the gov.
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Posted 04/06/11 - 4:33 PM:

i wonder how many people actually feel that piracy (of software, music, movies, etc) is wrong, and of those how many who do it anyway.
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Posted 04/06/11 - 4:41 PM:

At least, The Grateful Dead didn't care whether people recorded their music at concerts to pass along to their friends. From what my Mom says they basically encouraged it. Why can't more artists/directors/producers be like that?!
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Posted 04/07/11 - 3:39 AM:

henry quirk wrote:

Assuming I gave enough of a damn to be concerned about any particular example of software piracy: I'm way more inclined to simply contact the originator (or copyright holder) of the software than I am to run, snitch-like, to the gov.


Indeed.
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Posted 04/07/11 - 3:41 AM:

KinNaoko90 wrote:
At least, The Grateful Dead didn't care whether people recorded their music at concerts to pass along to their friends. From what my Mom says they basically encouraged it. Why can't more artists/directors/producers be like that?!


A good question. A truely creative individual will never be too concerned of copyrights. Copyrights come into picture when you want to do business. wink
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Posted 04/08/11 - 8:47 AM:

"Copyrights come into picture when you want to do business"

Not really, no.

Copyright (in any form) is fundamentally about protecting property.

That is: copyright declares formally, publically: 'this is mine'.

The whole point: to prevent someone else from laying claim to another's work (even if that other never draws a profit on the work, the work still belongs to him or her and is his or hers to do with as he or she sees fit).

As an aside: since when is 'creativity' and 'business' (making a living) mutually exclusive?

If, as writer, I want to sell my writings, how does this adulterate my creative exercise?

Certainly: 'profit' CAN butcher creativity...when one works to fit a niche or a demographic or genre, then -- yeah -- hack work is a common result.

But: not every writer (looking for compensation) looks to fit into a 'category' (see 'fugue state press' for an example).

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"Why can't more artists/directors/producers be like that?"

The 'hippy' ethic is fine for those who want to give away their work...fine by me. I, however, expect compensation for my work.
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Posted 04/08/11 - 9:18 AM:

quirk wrote:
As an aside: since when is 'creativity' and 'business' (making a living) mutually exclusive?

If, as writer, I want to sell my writings, how does this adulterate my creative exercise?

thumb up there's a common myth that you have to be poor to be any good at your art. here's a good article that addresses that:

www.huffingtonpost.com/dere...a-broken-art_b_838055.html
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Posted 04/08/11 - 12:40 PM:

Watch as I combine disparate element to make a point... wink


blog.moviefone.com/2011/04/...director-illegal-download/
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Posted 04/11/11 - 6:04 AM:

I never meant that you should be poor to be creative.

I still suggest that process of getting copyrights and patents for your works is not stream lined with your creative outpourings. It takes a bit of 'business man' ( yeah, businessman might well be creative!) to sell, to get copyrights and patents for your creative works.

I still suggest that in a way these might not be very conducive to your creative process. Often, if there is someone or something to take care of your belly, you might be more creative, more ecstatic and might touch the peak of creativity in your own field.
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Posted 04/11/11 - 9:01 AM:

Thinker: as I say above, 'copyright (in any form) is fundamentally about protecting property. That is: copyright declares formally, publically: 'this is mine'.'

Why do I need to do such a thing?

'Cause some motherfucker out there just might try and claim what's mine for his or her own.

It's called theft.

If I spend a year on a first draft, a year on revisions: then damn straight I'm gonna publically claim and protect the tangible expression of my efforts.

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"Often, if there is someone or something to take care of your belly, you might be more creative..."

Patronage can keep the wolves at bay, but it can also enact a price too.

'Alone', poor, hungry, and unrestrained is preferable to 'sheltered', well-heeled, sated and chained.
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Posted 05/21/11 - 6:27 AM:

You know what would happen if piracy of my software was reported to the government? Nothing at all. Some of the people who steal my software even get me to spend an hour of my time giving them free installation and more hours supporting them, and there's nothing I can do about them because I make less than minimum wage and can't afford 10 seconds in a lawyer's office and many of the pirates are in other countries anyway.

In practice, only the wealthy can enforce their copyrights.
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Posted 05/21/11 - 9:18 AM:

"You know what would happen if piracy of my software was reported to the government? Nothing at all."

Agreed. That's one of the reasons I say upfront, 'I'm way more inclined to simply contact the originator (or copyright holder) of the software than I am to run, snitch-like, to the gov.'

The gov (being what it is) isn't inclined to do jack beyond what the folks who comprise it need to safeguard self-survival. The 'owner', on the other hand, might be moved to 'do something' since the theft of what's his endangers 'his' survival.


"Some of the people who steal my software even get me to spend an hour of my time giving them free installation and more hours supporting them, and there's nothing I can do about them"

Well, you could just stop helping them, or, is there a reason you're compelled to aid the thief?


"In practice, only the wealthy can enforce their copyrights."

If a body is adhering strictly to 'the law', then -- yeah - you’re absolutely right.
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