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Posted 08/25/12 - 2:02 PM:

QUOTE THE DOC :The 'Big Bang' and the creation of the Universe Hardly qualify God as a shipwright,
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R eally doc rolling eyes is ANYTHING to hard for almoghty GOD who creates universes , galaxies and other dimensions unknown to us ...would building a ark be any problem at all for GOD who knows allthings ...i dont think so laughing
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Posted 08/25/12 - 5:49 PM:

How many Arks has God actually built? From personal experience I know that knowing how to do something, and actually doing it, are not the same.
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Posted 08/26/12 - 5:40 AM:

QUOTE THE DOC :From personal experience .
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What is YOUR personal expeiance beside the peronal experisnce of ALMIGHTY GOD doc h m m ?, the ABSOLUTE SPIRIT can make anything he chooses to make , and as he chose the ARK it served its purpose PERFECTLY , it carried 8 people tp safety smiling face

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Posted 08/26/12 - 10:01 PM:

Excuse me while I interject a great quote I came across today...

"La explicación es un error bien vestido."
--Julio Cortázar

(Explanation is a well-dressed error)
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Posted 08/26/12 - 10:44 PM:

SUNLIGHT wrote:

the ABSOLUTE SPIRIT can make anything he chooses to make ,



Really? I do not recall anywhere in scripture where the 'Absolute Spirit' (I assume you mean God) made an ark. Can you quote me book, chapter, and verse? Otherwise it sounds like you are just breaking wind.
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Posted 08/27/12 - 7:01 AM:

[quote=thedoc]


Really? I do not recall anywhere in scripture where the 'Absolute Spirit' (I assume you mean God) made an ark. Can you quote me book, chapter, and verse? Otherwise it sounds like you are just breaking wind. [/quote.
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that sounds very near to insulting doc , i thought insults were not allowed here ?, so am i allowed to reply with if you do not know that GOD instucted noah on how to construct the ark then that shows what an IGNORAMUS you are doc laughing .

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Genesis 6:14-16
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14 So make yourself an ark of cypress[a] wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out. 15 This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be three hundred cubits long, fifty cubits wide and thirty cubits high.[b] 16 Make a roof for it, leaving below the roof an opening one cubit[c] high all around.[d] Put a door in the side of the ark and make lower, middle and upper decks.

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Posted 08/27/12 - 7:17 AM:

SUNLIGHT wrote:
[quote=thedoc]


Really? I do not recall anywhere in scripture where the 'Absolute Spirit' (I assume you mean God) made an ark. Can you quote me book, chapter, and verse? Otherwise it sounds like you are just breaking wind. [/quote.
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that sounds very near to insulting doc , i thought insults were not allowed here ?, so am i allowed to reply with if you do not know that GOD instucted noah on how to construct the ark then that shows what an IGNORAMUS you are doc laughing .

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Genesis 6:14-16
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14 So make yourself an ark of cypress[a] wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out. 15 This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be three hundred cubits long, fifty cubits wide and thirty cubits high.[b] 16 Make a roof for it, leaving below the roof an opening one cubit[c] high all around.[d] Put a door in the side of the ark and make lower, middle and upper decks.

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Very good, those are the instructions on how to build the ark. But giving instructions and actually building something are not equivalent, and I have done both. My experience includes giving instructions and building things and the biggest problem was people who do not listen carefully to those instructions or think they know better, something like you not being able to answer my questiion. You still have not quoted chapter and verse where God BUILT an ark. Till then it's just talk, saying nothing. Saying how, even knowing how, is not the same as actually doing it.
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Posted 08/27/12 - 7:35 AM:

SUNLIGHT wrote:

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Genesis 6:14-16
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14 So make yourself an ark of cypress[a] wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out. 15 This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be three hundred cubits long, fifty cubits wide and thirty cubits high.[b] 16 Make a roof for it, leaving below the roof an opening one cubit[c] high all around.[d] Put a door in the side of the ark and make lower, middle and upper decks.

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These "Instructions" are not very good, they give the overall size and a vague description of how the interior is layed out, but no details of Joinery, fasteners, the shape of the bow and stern, the size of the indivedual spaces for animals. Where did God tell Noah how many spaces to make, that would effect the size avalable. "Make a roof for it", what kind of roof, thatch, planks with pitch, a tin roof? If these were the instructions, Noah would have needed to figure most of it out for himself, Did God know any of the details? I God did, it's nowhere in evidence in scripture.
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Posted 08/27/12 - 9:20 AM:

@ THE DOC .

cant you understand doc that NOAH abd his friends were the TOOLS that GOD used to buldthe ark following HIS specifications...shall the AXE say to the one who uses it " i have done this myself " , i dont think sodoc see scripture below laughing
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“Shall the axe boast itself against him that heweth therewith? or shall the saw magnify itself against him that shaketh it? as if the rod should shake itself against them that lift it up, or as if the staff should lift up itself, as if it were no wood”
.ISAIAH 10:15.
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in the above scipture GOD call the nation of assyria " the axe " which he used to chop down the nation of ISRAEL who were sinning against him , people were GODS TOOLS do do his work smiling face

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Posted 08/27/12 - 12:02 PM:

I understand, but I'm not sure that you do. God is the boss on the job or the foreman if you like, God doesn't need to do it himself, just tell the right people what to do and trust that they will do it correctly.

Matthew 8:5-9
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Jesus Heals a Centurion’s Servant
5 Now when Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to Him, pleading with Him, 6 saying, “Lord, my servant is lying at home paralyzed, dreadfully tormented.”

7 And Jesus said to him, “I will come and heal him.”

8 The centurion answered and said, “Lord, I am not worthy that You should come under my roof. But only speak a word, and my servant will be healed. 9 For I also am a man under authority, having soldiers under me. And I say to this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and to another, ‘Come,’ and he comes; and to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.”

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Posted 08/28/12 - 9:00 AM:

QUOTE THE DOC :I understand, but I'm not sure that you do. God is the boss on the job or the foreman if you like, God doesn't need to do it himself, just tell the right people what to do and trust that they will do it correctly.
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Thats correct and people are the tools he uses to do the job , such as building the ark , he was the designer , and the people were the tools he was using to do the job smiling face
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Posted 08/28/12 - 10:38 AM:

So on the end God is the Foreman or Boss on the job and orders others to do the work. God did NOT build the ark. This is not a question of 'Could God build an Ark?' but 'Did God build an Ark?' and to that the answer is NO. And now we come to the question if God could build an Ark, Did God, before Jesus was incarnate, have hands, or a body. Is God not spiritual? Why would God need a Body if God was just a voice from the Heavens?
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Posted 08/28/12 - 3:19 PM:

QUOTE THE DOC :So on the end God is the Foreman or Boss on the job
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WRONG DOC thumb down a foreman has someone over him but GOD has no one over him .smiling face
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Posted 09/05/12 - 11:25 PM:

SUNLIGHT:

Link: Veda-Base
The chief engineer of a complicated construction does not personally take part in the construction itself, but it is he only who knows all the nooks and corners of the construction because everything is carried out under his instructions only. In other words, he knows everything about the construction directly and indirectly. Similarly, the Personality of Godhead, who is the supreme engineer of this cosmic creation, knows very well what is happening in every nook and corner of the cosmic creation, although activities appear to be performed by someone else. In actuality no one is independent in the material creation; the hand of the Supreme Lord is everywhere. All material elements, as well as all spiritual sparks, are but emanations from Him only. Whatever is created in this material world is created by the interaction of the two energies, material and spiritual. These energies belong to the Absolute Truth, the Personality of Godhead, Śrī Kṛṣṇa.

A chemist can manufacture water in the laboratory by mixing hydrogen and oxygen, but in reality the living entity can only work under the direction of the Supreme Lord. Indeed, all materials used by a chemist are supplied by the Lord. The Lord knows everything directly and indirectly, and He is cognizant of all the minute details of everything. He is fully independent as well. He can be compared to a gold mine, and the cosmic creations can be compared to ornaments made from that gold, such as gold rings, necklaces, etc. The gold ring and necklace are qualitatively one with the gold in the mine, but quantitatively the gold in the mine and the gold in the earring or necklace are different. Lord Caitanya’s philosophy of the Absolute Truth centers about the fact that the Supreme Lord is simultaneously one with and different from His creation. Nothing is absolutely equal to the Absolute Truth, but at the same time nothing is independent of it.

Conditioned souls, beginning from Brahmā, the engineer of this particular universe, down to an insignificant ant, are all creating something, but none of them are independent of the Supreme Lord. The materialist wrongly thinks that there is no creator outside his own good self, and this is called māyā, or illusion. Due to his poor fund of knowledge, the materialist cannot see beyond the purview of his imperfect senses; thus he thinks that matter automatically takes its own shape independent of a conscious background. This is refuted by Śrīla Vyāsadeva in the first verse of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. As stated before, Vyāsadeva is a liberated soul, and he compiled this book of authority after attaining spiritual perfection. Since the complete whole, or the Absolute Truth, is the source of everything, nothing is independent of Him. Everything exists within the body of the Absolute Truth. Any action or reaction of a part of a body becomes a cognizable fact to the embodied whole. Similarly, if the creation abides in the body of the Absolute Truth, then nothing is unknown to the Absolute, directly or indirectly.
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Posted 09/06/12 - 6:41 AM:

Small pools of water accumulate during the rainy season, and in the autumn they gradually dry up. The little creatures playing in those small pools do not understand that their days are now numbered and will end very soon. Thus they are like foolish men who, not caring for the nearing day of their death, become absorbed in the so-called enjoyment of family life.

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Posted 03/20/13 - 12:16 AM:

"Whatever doesn't kill me... had better start running"

(this quote made me think of you henry lol)
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Posted 03/20/13 - 8:40 AM:

HA!

Yeah, it's appropriate for me... wink
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Posted 03/20/13 - 1:50 PM:

libertygrl wrote:
"Whatever doesn't kill me... had better start running"

(this quote made me think of you henry lol)



"You should always finish what you start" - thedoc

And I really can't say too much more about that.
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"Your problem is you have spent your whole life thinking there are rules. There aren't. We used to be gorillas. All we had is what we could take and defend." Lorne Malvo 'Fargo'
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Posted 05/09/14 - 11:11 PM:

Anyone post any Cioran quotes? I'm too lazy to look.

“A zoologist who observed gorillas in their native habitat was amazed by the uniformity of their life and their vast idleness. Hours and hours without doing anything. Was boredom unknown to them? This is indeed a question raised by a human, a busy ape. Far from fleeing monotony, animals crave it, and what they most dread is to see it end. For it ends, only to be replaced by fear, the cause of all activity. Inaction is divine; yet it is against inaction that man has rebelled. Man alone, in nature, is incapable of enduring monotony, man alone wants something to happen at all costs—something, anything.... Thereby he shows himself unworthy of his ancestor: the need for novelty is the characteristic of an alienated gorilla.”
― Emil Cioran
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Posted 05/23/14 - 8:27 AM:

'Fuck you. Fireballs and Lightning Bolts solve all problems.' --Fizbin the Wizard to an optimistic diplomat
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Posted 05/23/14 - 8:45 AM:

Some of you may remember our old communitarian friend, Xanthos. Before he left to save the world (by way of sewing everyone together, ass to mouth) he and me had a bit of an exchange by way of private e's. He left before I could send him the following (which I just noted as sittin' in my drafts box)...

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oh, who am i kidding...given half a chance i'd take every damn thing you have as my own: then shoot you in the head and dump your corpse in a ditch!

the only difference between you and me is i admit what i'm capable of...i don't dress my capacity for violence or acquisition in a pretty communitarian dress and call it 'ethical' or 'moral'

unlike DFT: i claim no philosophical foundation...i only assert myself

you, however: hide behind a rousseau-ian notion wherein the individual is under implicit contract to submit his or her own will to the 'the will of the people'

in the exercise of this 'popular will': you, and those like you, would take every damn thing of mine, shoot me in the head, and dump my corpse in the nearest ditch!

i applaud your capacity for this: now, if you could just be honest about it...

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Don't recall who (or what) 'DFT' is, and I have only hazy recollections as to the bulk of my conversation with Xanthos.

Since I'm not wedged between, and sewn up to, two fat, sweaty, freaks I can only assume his communitarian utopia is still in the planning stages... whatever
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Posted 05/23/14 - 12:40 PM:

henry quirk wrote:

Since I'm not wedged between, and sewn up to, two fat, sweaty, freaks I can only assume his communitarian utopia is still in the planning stages... whatever



We can certainly hope so, and may his "planning" take ever so long.
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Posted 06/02/14 - 10:10 PM:

Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy. It is not true, in fact, and nowhere appears in history. Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty.

John Adams, POTUS #2
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Posted 06/27/14 - 11:03 AM:

'The Black Flower in your heart? Yeah, I planted the seed, but only after you tilled the soil'. -The Devil, to anyone you care to name
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