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Posted 01/26/11 - 12:50 AM:
Subject: any more dreams? part 2
kicking off a new dream interpretation thread with an excerpt from my dream journal. please feel free to share dreams of your own for folks to comment on & interpret if so desired!

january 12, 2011

i was having a bad dream, in which i was at an airport, trying to get home. it was a very small airport & reminded me a little bit of the one in venice. not the layout - just that it was small and there was hardly anyone there. i had the feeling it was the middle of the night, too, although i couldn't see outside and i didn't know what time it was. but i figured there would be more people there during the day.

there was a short line waiting to board the plane. i dropped one of my boarding passes & it flew off to the back of the room. i decided not to worry about it, because i thought it was the pass for my connecting flight, and i figured i could get it reprinted when i got to the next destination. i saw some women toward the back of the line pick something up off the floor, and wondered if it might have been my boarding pass. i didn't think confronting them about it would help, though - i figured if they were going to be honest about it, they would have taken the pass up to the airline employee to begin with.

i looked at the pass in my hand, and realized it was not the one for this flight. i was worried about getting out of line, thinking i would miss the flight. there were 2 airport staff standing at the entrance to the line, and i asked them where i could get my boarding pass reprinted. they said they didn't know. they didn't think anyone would be manning the customer service desk at this hour. i felt extremely stressed out. that's when i woke up.

i lay awake in bed for a while.

after i fell back asleep, i was there again at the same airport. i was still in line to board the plane, but now i noticed that my boarding pass had the wrong name on it. also realized i didn't have my passport. i was a little exasperated, but i decided to stick it out & keep moving forward. maybe the airline representative wouldn't notice that the boarding pass had the wrong name on it, and if she did, i would simply ask her how to fix it. i handed her my california driver's license and the boarding pass. she looked at them momentarily, then disappeared down the hallway behind her, presumably to talk to a supervisor of some sort. when she re-emerged, she pointed out that my boarding pass had the wrong name on it, and presented me with a small ticket so i could get a new boarding pass. she told me that there was a machine down on the first floor, that all i needed to do was insert this ticket into the machine, and it would print out a new boarding pass.

things finally were looking up. i hurried downstairs, found the ticket machine, inserted my ticket, and printed the boarding pass. i alarmingly discovered that the plane was about to take off in about 2 minutes. (i think the current dream time was 1:27am, and the plane's departure time was 1:29am.) i bolted back up to the boarding area and shouted for them to please not shut the gate. there were apparently people still in line, boarding, and all was fine.

once i got on the plane, i grabbed a blanket and got settled into my seat. i was sitting in a strange area in the back of the plane where the seating did not seem quite normal. also, more people were boarding the plane than there were available seats. i began to realize that, even though the flight was full, the airline (i believe air france) was squeezing people in (myself included), so everyone could get home. i thought it was really nice of them to do that. some people were camped out on the floor. i felt lucky to have a chair. there was a lady sleeping in a chair to my left, but no one on my right, so i was able to recline out onto my right side. there were people in front of me, in fact i think someone directly in front of me was stretched out on a cot. i leaned over to my right side and pulled up my blanket and went to sleep.

after we landed, the airline invited each of us to select a number of small gifts (i think 3?) from a wall along the left side of the plane (left if you were facing toward the back where we were sitting). they had several different small dictionary sets which i was very interested in. one was an english dictionary in a 3-part set. another was a vietnamese/english dictionary. i think they may have had other languages too. i grabbed the ones that interested me, and felt excited about them.

i disembarked the plane, and i realized that i was finally home. it was such a tremendous relief.
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Posted 05/25/11 - 3:06 AM:

This dream occurred a few weeks ago. I am writing a few details therefore, as most of it has been forgotten by now.

I entered into a saloon or in a parlor; perhaps for getting a haircut and there I found an offer by the hairdresser to change the shape of my nose and I thought it worth giving a trial as it seemed just a very easy procedure. I undergo some procedure and then I realized that my nostrils have become smaller in size; this, I found to be too disgusting and then even to worsen it, I realized that the procedure had involvement of surgery in it. This made me feel cheated.

This is all I could recollect.


Edited by Thinker13 on 05/25/11 - 3:23 AM. Reason: Grammar
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Posted 05/26/11 - 1:45 PM:

for starters, this dream sounds like a betrayal of some sort. someone offered you one thing and you felt deceived by what you actually ended up receiving. this could possibly relate to an actual event that happened in your life a few weeks ago, or perhaps to one that you were thinking about or remembering during the day (or days) before your dream.

on the other hand, it could simply be a general observation about the trade-off that occurs when we sacrifice our spiritual connections for the sake of vanity. the nose is a perfect symbol for this because 1) it is in the center of our face, so it contributes in large part to how we see our own faces in terms of attractiveness. cosmetic surgery to the nose and other parts of the body is very popular here in the U.S. entertainment industry! on the other hand, 2) it is one of the key organs or passageways by which we breathe. so to have the nostrils reduced in size would suggest to me an interference with your normal breathing patterns. out of curiosity, was the hairdresser male or female? that would also contribute something to the interpretation, of whether you felt betrayed by the masculine or feminine archetype.

last night i had a dream about giant spiders, very alarming! my second time this week dreaming about giant spiders. in the dreams i felt that i really truly had nothing to fear from them, i didn't think they would actually harm me. but still the sight of them was very disturbing. one of them crawled through my hair, *shudder*
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Posted 05/26/11 - 7:23 PM:

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Posted 06/06/11 - 6:27 AM:

You are a master in dream interpretation and your interpretation is really very pertinent. Yes, I remember that my expectations were not fulfilled. I was also concerned about my lung power then. The hairdresser was male!

What do you make of your dream lib, if you wish to share?

I look forward to share many more dreams with you and listening to your great interpretations will be a joy!

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Posted 06/07/11 - 12:29 PM:

Thinker wrote:
You are a master in dream interpretation and your interpretation is really very pertinent.

thank you, glad i could help hug

a male hairdresser... while it could represent someone you actually know, it could also represent the masculine archetype, which as you probably know typically symbolizes the realm of logic, conscious knowledge, science, reason, ego, control, the intellectual, and so on. if or where it pertains to this latter possibility, i would suggest that perhaps your subconscious mind feels you have put too much trust in the information gleaned from masculine knowledge, which may have been at the expense of your feminine knowledge which is gleaned from intuition, spirituality, emotion, surrender, and so on.

(keep in mind that this archetypal perspective, if you feel it could be applicable, is a very broad interpretation and may still at the same time relate to a specific incident or a specific person that you feel betrayed you in some way.)

it's interesting, the symbolism of breathing. breathing can be a conscious activity, one that involves exercising control. but at the same time it is an unconscious activity, one that we do all the time without thinking about it, and in that manner, can also be a symbol of surrender. as such, it embodies both the masculine and feminine archetypes.

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What do you make of your dream lib, if you wish to share?

i had even yet another spider dream after these two!

there have been major changes in my life these last few weeks. in general, i would say that spiders symbolize karma and fate. spiders weave webs and they trap their prey. it's a scary idea this, the thought that you can become trapped in a situation and not get free. and yet certain choices we make can lead us into such situations. and some situations are even far beyond our control.

i think these particular spiders could possibly relate, in part, to the choices i've made in my life pertaining to recreational drug use. they may also relate to someone i've recently met, someone i feel very strongly fated to know. my interactions with this person have been largely guided by intuition, leading me to some unexpected interactions with good results. exciting but scary at the same time.
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Posted 07/10/11 - 3:09 AM:

Wrote it in morning at 4:30 AM:

Inside the dream I was explaining the contents of another dream. I was sleeping and I heard a sound beneath my bed as if something was there. Then, I heard a cry of a baby. I was scared and I got up after having mustered my courage. I lit up a candle. I looked through the window and it was my relative in an adjacent room (perhaps my aunt and her kid was crying because he was suffering). I offered them all the food I had because they were hungry. One of them was also baking her food on gas stove. I used cooker to serve food and so on. My parents appeared and I told them that I had a similar dream in which I heard something beneath my bed and I found it to be dog but when I woke up after having heard the cry of the baby there was nobody in the next room and it was like a horror story. My father looked beneath my bed and found a dog that ran away through the garage door so the building seems to be an olden one where garage had door. I convinced my parents and then realized that the husband of the lady was experimenting with the illness of the kids. Before having gotten this scenario I was in some kind of big conference where a lot of books were available and I was reading them. Permission was to read books then and there. There was assembly of a few old people and they were talking about one old person in particular. Before that I was climbing up a big mountain and then I found a friend and I slide and then I was inside a building where a different kind of soldier came and theirs was a typical system to chastise and I do not recall the reason. Food was very vivid. My home was vivid. I recalled that dog beneath my bed was shaking as if doing sex . The baby was crying and as I woke up late I could not find (was my description of my dream)---Now I woke up and realized that my describing was also a dream. This is a dream inside dream scenario. Such a great world of dreams!
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Posted 07/14/11 - 4:37 PM:

super cool dream! some questions, if you don't mind, and if you recall:

do you remember who you were explaining the dream to?

what was your feeling when you heard the baby crying? you mentioned feeling scared but i wondered if it was concern for the baby or some other concern?

when you looked through the window to see your relative in an adjacent room, which direction were you facing? to be more clear, which direction was the window, to your left, your right, or straight ahead of you?

"husband of the lady experimenting with the illness of the kids" - do you remember any more details about this? do you remember how you felt about this person doing the experimenting?

in the assembly of old people, do you remember what the attitude of the group was toward the one old person in particular that they were talking about?

a different kind of soldier how? (different from what) - was the soldier there to chastise you, or someone?

thanks for sharing, sounds very interesting thumb up
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Posted 07/15/11 - 2:04 AM:

libertygrl wrote:
super cool dream! some questions, if you don't mind, and if you recall:

do you remember who you were explaining the dream to?


Initially to myself ( it seems) and then, to my parents, as I have described already.

what was your feeling when you heard the baby crying? you mentioned feeling scared but i wondered if it was concern for the baby or some other concern?


Yes, scared, because I did not recall that there was any baby in the adjacent room [ I mean I supposed being alone in the premises or so]--it was kind of horror movies!

when you looked through the window to see your relative in an adjacent room, which direction were you facing? to be more clear, which direction was the window, to your left, your right, or straight ahead of you?


It is easy to explain because the room where I was sleeping is very much similar to a room in my native place. I came to an adjacent room and then there is a window on the wall to the left side ( if you are coming out of the room where you were sleeping). It is not fabricated but as same as it's there in my home at my native place. So, to sum it, it was towards my left!

"husband of the lady experimenting with the illness of the kids" - do you remember any more details about this? do you remember how you felt about this person doing the experimenting?


I meant I had dreadful feelings because instead of feeding his hungry babies and caring for their illness, he was busy experimenting with it; as if testing their tolerance for diseases or testing some drug he had made ( I am not sure that I recall it clearly!)

in the assembly of old people, do you remember what the attitude of the group was toward the one old person in particular that they were talking about?


Very vague; but it seems to be kind of 'respect for his wisdom'.

a different kind of soldier how? (different from what) - was the soldier there to chastise you, or someone?


This part seems to have occured very early in the dream, that is why it is most difficult to recall. I am sorry!

thanks for sharing, sounds very interesting thumb up


Thanks for your interesting questions.

I would again like to tell you something: The room where I was sleeping used to have a garage adjacent to it where we used to park our car. The room had an opening to garage. Now it has no opening for garage; i.e. we use a very separate entrance for garage these days. The dog in my dream ran away from that same opening which used to be there some 10-12 years ago, when, my father looked below the bed.
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Posted 07/15/11 - 10:21 AM:

a few more things - what do you mean "native room"? is it a room in a different house, one you grew up in? the garage that used to be adjacent to the room, was it on the right side of the room (opposite side of the window?)

when you say you use a separate entrance for the garage these days, you mean that you're living in a different house now, right? or is it that your family made some changes to the construction of the house.

thanks, it all sounds very intriguing. looking forward to taking a closer examination. thumb up
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Posted 07/15/11 - 10:29 AM:

libertygrl wrote:
a few more things - what do you mean "native room"? is it a room in a different house, one you grew up in?


Yes, I stay in a city far away from the one I grew up in.


the garage that used to be adjacent to the room, was it on the right side of the room (opposite side of the window?)


The room in which I was sleeping had two entrances. One leads you to room from another room and this was opposite to the garage and just before this entrance would be the window mentioned. The other entrance comes from garage side and it leads to the exit from house as well and this is the passage where dog ran away!


when you say you use a separate entrance for the garage these days, you mean that you're living in a different house now, right? or is it that your family made some changes to the construction of the house.


Yes, family made some structural changes.

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thanks, it all sounds very intriguing. looking forward to taking a closer examination. thumb up


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Posted 07/15/11 - 11:01 AM:

sorry, still confused! the house in the dream is different from the house you live in now? but your family still owns the house?
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Posted 07/15/11 - 11:42 AM:

libertygrl wrote:
sorry, still confused! the house in the dream is different from the house you live in now? but your family still owns the house?



Indeed.
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Posted 07/15/11 - 12:35 PM:

roger that. will give it some thought.
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Posted 07/19/11 - 10:46 AM:

one more question. do you remember of *what* you were trying to convince your parents, before realizing the husband was experimenting on the children?
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Posted 07/20/11 - 11:19 AM:

libertygrl wrote:
one more question. do you remember of *what* you were trying to convince your parents, before realizing the husband was experimenting on the children?


I think, it was that I often keep on getting such dreams in which I find babies crying in the room beside or in which I feel as if dogs are under my bed ( I wonder from where they come under my bed) but I do not find babies in the room besides ( on waking up!) and dogs below bed ( But my father found a dog below bed...which ran away outside from garage door!)smiling face [ So, I was convincing them about veracity of another dream inside my dream!]
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Posted 07/21/11 - 2:41 PM:

the dog ran away through the garage door in your dream?
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Posted 07/22/11 - 11:47 AM:

libertygrl wrote:
the dog ran away through the garage door in your dream?


Yes! That used to be there as opening for garage; through the room, some 10-12 years ago!
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ok it wasn't clear whether the dog running away was in the dream only or if you mean that this was a dog that ran away in real life through that opening. so, just to be clear! in the dream *only*, your dad looked under the bed, and that's when the dog ran away through the garage?

thanks for clarifications. will share my thoughts this weekend. thumb up
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p.s. have you ever kept a dog as a pet in real life?
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p.s. have you ever kept a dog as a pet in real life?



Yes. Many dogs were fed by us but not as pet. I kept a dog as a pet in real life which was tragically killed by other dogs in our vicinity.
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Posted 07/24/11 - 5:04 PM:

there are 3 main themes which come to mind for this dream:

1) you in the role of hierophant
2) deception or betrayal
3) vulnerability; helping those in need or wanting to

the hierophant is an archetype mainly known from the tarot. you can google it to find a more detailed description, but basically he is like a bridge between the conscious world and the esoteric mysteries of the unconscious. in your dream, you are often explaining aspects of the dream to someone, your parents or yourself. this would indicate to me that you see probably yourself as having this role in real life. even describing the dream in your journal is a very hierophant-like thing to do.

it may be that you view yourself as an interpreter of sorts, an interpreter of signs perhaps. this is not inconsistent with someone who interprets astrology charts. the picture this dream paints of you, in my mind, is of someone who gathers information and shares it with others, hoping that it can somehow become more clear in spite of the illusory nature of it all. you mentioned convincing your parents of the "veracity" or truth of certain events taking place inside another layer of dream. perhaps an indication of some skepticism on their parts in real life, pertaining to a specific matter? or on a more abstract scale, perhaps indicating a feeling of needing to educate them in more esoteric matters.

i have not seen many horror films, but from what i have seen, disillusionment is often a prominent theme. in other words, things are not as they seem. it is many times not clear who - or what - you can trust in a horror film. this theme is reflected as well in the notion of a dream within a dream: what is really real? is every dream and/or every reality merely one layer within another? upon which layer can we rest our minds knowing it is a secure foundation?

it may be that this dream is continuing in the theme of betrayal (in similarity with the previous dream that you had about the hairdresser changing the shape of your nose). it is possible that you feel another person has betrayed you in some way, or it may also be that you feel you have betrayed someone else's trust in some way. these are some possible literal interpretations. on a more abstract level, there may be an overall feeling of disillusionment in general with the world, feeling that the things you had come to know were not a fully accurate representation of the actual state of affairs.

the desire to help those in need seems evident. the crying baby, the dog, your aunt who is hungry, the helpless children whose father experiments on them, these are all forms of vulnerability which seem to be wanting your attention. you climbed a mountain (achievement) but when you found a friend, you slid down again, another example of vulnerability. the dog is "shaking as if doing sex" - sexuality being another example of vulnerability. also, you mentioned the personal history of having a had a pet dog that was killed by other dogs in the neighborhood - another example of vulnerability.

so the dream may express overall your own vulnerability that concerns you, or someone else's, or that of many people. in the dream, you spend time gathering knowledge, for example at the conference, or perhaps hoping to glean some wisdom from the elderly among you. i think this is probably a representation of your desire to find a solution/resolution for this vulnerability.

when the soldier comes to chastise, this seems to me a symbol for rigid behavior which may be an obstacle to resolving the vulnerability. perhaps something you perceive in your parents which is why you may feel compelled to convince them of things. it may also be something you perceive in yourself.

overall, the archetypes are typical i think of what joseph campbell would call "the hero's journey", in which the hero faces many obstacles while trying to do the right thing. in that sense, this dream can apply to many different contexts. however, there may be specific incidents that happened in the days preceding the dream that could be more immediately relevant.
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Posted 07/25/11 - 1:09 AM:

It's a great interpretation and many of the things described hold good. It was very interesting to share this dream and to read interpretation and more than that in this act of description I have come to know many things which were subconscious, thanks to your pertinent questions! Thanks for taking pains!
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you're very welcome, it was a pleasure
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interesting dreams last night. i came into my apartment and there was a thin black snake on the floor crawling toward me. i took off its head and tail with a large kitchen knife. i opened my closet and another black snake dropped from the ceiling and tried to attack me. i also took off its head and tail with the same knife.
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