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Posted 09/16/10 - 12:59 PM:
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I appreciate courage, in this walk of life, more than, any other quality[with perhaps the only exception of, the 'love of the Truth'] I can imagine, recognize or appreciate. With a very vague idea about how exactly to express it into the words and with a very strong intuition about how exactly it feels--I would like to know your views on the same and about the importance you attach to it, in a human's behaiour, when it works, in conjuction with 'the whole'of the personality.
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Posted 09/16/10 - 1:43 PM:

hi thinker, great topic thumb up

lately i've been thinking about the notion of courage in the axiological context. courage, naturally, is exercised and expressed as a reflection of our values. what one person finds courageous in him or herself, another person may consider cowardly. it depends on what the individual values, and how challenging it is to exercise that value.

i think there's a certain kind of facial expression that alights upon the face of one who has been exercising courage. i don't know if i could describe it very well. it's a sort of weariness that comes from feeling that you've done the right thing in the face of fear and obstacles. you can see it in the eyes of a courageous person. you could call it personal integrity, and it is that as well, but it's also more than that, because personal integrity doesn't always call upon us to confront our fears. mother teresa, the dalai lama, gandhi - these are examples of people who carry or carried this expression.

some people attach the idea of courage to that of being aggressive or assertive, and this is not the same thing to me. to me, courage is about choosing to do right in the face of debilitating fear. i have a lot of respect for acts of courage.
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Posted 09/16/10 - 3:06 PM:

p.s. fearlessness has its own kind of appeal, but i'd say it's not the same thing as courage - think about the different kind of image conjured by the following statements:

a) whoa, you know brad? brad is awesome! that dude has NO FEAR!

b) yes, matt is one of the most courageous people i know.
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Posted 09/17/10 - 1:43 AM:

"Courage, my word...if it comes it doesn't matter
Courage, my word...if it comes it doesn't ma-tter
Courage...it couldn't come at a worse time..!"
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Posted 09/17/10 - 1:46 AM:

Courage is the subjugation of fear where fear would otherwise debilitate action.

Thus, mere boldness or brazenness is not courage, as these things proceed from arrogance on the assumption of superiority.

Courage proceeds from a position of weakness towards a position of strength.

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Posted 09/18/10 - 11:13 AM:

libertygrl wrote:
hi thinker, great topic thumb up


Thanks lib.takes a bow

lately i've been thinking about the notion of courage in the axiological context. courage, naturally, is exercised and expressed as a reflection of our values. what one person finds courageous in him or herself, another person may consider cowardly. it depends on what the individual values, and how challenging it is to exercise that value.


To the T.

i think there's a certain kind of facial expression that alights upon the face of one who has been exercising courage. i don't know if i could describe it very well. it's a sort of weariness that comes from feeling that you've done the right thing in the face of fear and obstacles.


I understad well where you are pointing towards, still, why you have taken up the word 'weariness' instead of the 'grace'or something else[i do not know what]--is not understood yet.

you can see it in the eyes of a courageous person. you could call it personal integrity, and it is that as well, but it's also more than that, because personal integrity doesn't always call upon us to confront our fears. mother teresa, the dalai lama, gandhi - these are examples of people who carry or carried this expression.


Indeed.This is one of the best of examples for Courageous personalities.

some people attach the idea of courage to that of being aggressive or assertive, and this is not the same thing to me. to me, courage is about choosing to do right in the face of debilitating fear. i have a lot of respect for acts of courage.



As Monk2400 has already said well --this comes from ego, it is very contracted and not at all expansive like'Courage'.
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Posted 09/18/10 - 3:24 PM:

There is a courage that takes you across a river,and another that puts you on the right path,but it needs a greater courage to stay in the right path than to come on to it.
Such was the courage of Christ who preached to the multitude ."you shall love another " and was not to be browbeaten by the priests of Jerusalem who forbade him to teach thus or by the Romans who put him on the cross.
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Posted 09/21/10 - 1:58 PM:

Monk wrote:
Thus, mere boldness or brazenness is not courage, as these things proceed from arrogance on the assumption of superiority.

yes, well stated
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Posted 09/21/10 - 3:56 PM:

Thinker13 wrote:
I understad well where you are pointing towards, still, why you have taken up the word 'weariness' instead of the 'grace'or something else[i do not know what]--is not understood yet.

weary because it requires effort to overcome fear. it is the expression of a kind of psychological fatigue that i think is different from other kinds of fatigue, so it manifests in a certain way on a person's face after long periods of showing courage. i think people who already have a sense of self-respect can often intuitively recognize this expression in a person without knowing much about them.

if you ever meet a terminally ill cancer patient who is still able to find ways to smile about life, you will likely see this same kind of weariness in their expression.
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Posted 09/21/10 - 3:56 PM:

hi bravo, would you say that christ was fearless?
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Posted 09/30/10 - 3:14 AM:

libertygrl wrote:
hi bravo, would you say that christ was fearless?


Yes, Christ had the courage; like Laozi and Buddha had.
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