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Nihil Loc
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Posted 07/01/10 - 9:25 PM:
Subject: I just want to write something.
Okay, now the box is open and the pressure is on.

Mogobo is a member of the board of my conscience. He so happens to be a tenured professor at UDR (pronounced "Udder" stands for University of Dung Rolling) in the meadow behind Alder creek. He belongs to the nominal class of beetles called Scarabaeoidea who often work with dung and teach various levels of theoretical and applicable scatology.

We keep in touch using a Jeejah nano-talkie, which is nearly analogous to a phone except it is most commonly used for inter-species communication and is custom-fitted to fit comfortably in one's ear. A syntactical program translates his local Scarab to my English as it is transmitted via the ISN (Inter-species Satellite Network).

Sorry, I didn't mean for this to be too much of a dull formal introduction. But there is a bit more.

Mogobo is an elected and active member of the "Board of Conscience for the Long Term Welfare of Bill". In other words, he is my personal adviser in common sense and ethics at the moment, taking the place of Dr. Phrill Mulbrocpoodoodironimie, an alien from the Degari Starsystem. Protocol of the board system dictates seasonal alternations of those who act as standing 24 hour personal counselors.

Does anyone have questions for Mogobo?

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Posted 07/02/10 - 12:06 AM:

esteemed mogobo.

in ¥our opinion, is it wrong to kill bugs?
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Posted 07/02/10 - 11:20 AM:

I do not have any questions for Mogobo, still, when pressure is on, penchant to put something in the dustbin, is highly highlighted. My laconic excursions get converted into blabberwockying; interlocution filled with senseless killing of the lanuaguage which has never befriended me. My soporific verbiage is seldom in doldrums hence the torture inflicted is perspicuosly tenuous. Logical fallacies seldom creep in such an indulgence for imagery of hitherto visited places can never fit into the logic, which is, neither apt, nor sufficient to measure anything against 'self', of which, it is, but a tiny fraction. the gigantic self asks to the tiny fraction(logic): How long will you combat?

Logic says: I do not know, neither I care about the victory. Let us have fun!


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Posted 07/02/10 - 2:31 PM:

Libertygrl wrote:
esteemed mogobo.

in ¥our opinion, is it wrong to kill bugs?


Salutations Libertygrl,

As a bug who is omnivorous I sometimes find it necessary to kill other bugs in order to survive. Unlike humans, many of us bugs have very special diets crafted by the the ancient and ongoing processes of natural selection. My species also eat types of fungi but these are not always easy to find or cultivate. Despite our growing secret intelligence we are still held to the demands of an old diet.

The question you pose continues to be discussed by many bugs who are now striving to apply reason to life's most difficult questions.

A carnivore will find an herbivore's repudiation of any act of killing a universally inapplicable proposal.

I'm deeply saddened by the human treatment of the bug. Farmers have wiped out trillions of us in order to protect their own crops from our own prerogative to survive, not always to an overall net advantage.

While the carnivorous bug could benefit from his alliance with man, countless bug species suffer vast artificial pressures, a veritable genocide, of chemical pest control.

Your question has no simple answer and must ultimately be framed by your own point of view. The values imposed upon me by my inherited nature provide me with an answer.

What do you think about bug killing, libertygrl?

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Posted 07/05/10 - 2:35 PM:

oh, gosh, ants really are a pain. i don't feel great about killing them, but it makes me feel better to imagine that maybe somehow they were former president george bush in a previous life (even though bush is still alive ~ the universe works in mysterious ways!) if only they didn't have to invade my home and take my cereal, we could all co-exist quite peacefully. we all want the same things, though, don't we. a space to call our own, food on which to survive...
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Posted 07/05/10 - 2:35 PM:

Thinker13 wrote:
Logic says: I do not know, neither I care about the victory. Let us have fun!

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Posted 07/05/10 - 8:27 PM:

What is his dung fetish all about? Why does he teach scatology?
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Posted 07/07/10 - 12:25 AM:

The Republic of Exotica wrote:
What is his dung fetish all about? Why does he teach scatology?


grin

Mogobo is a dung beetle and so he found it only natural to pursue the study of dung.
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Posted 07/10/10 - 11:32 PM:

Scatology

If there is a counter role to Mogobo's, it must be in Ruzen, the It, a fickle, self-absorbed, over zealous tutor.

He aligns his sympathies with the organs of our appetite.

Ruzen speaks:

"Come now, my noble master. You know I'm just as the animals are, innocent, as the bitter cold snow, the beetles in the bark, and the vicious comforts of necessity. Life feeds on life, a maxim none but the naive may doubt.

This fascination of dung is one of death. In the breath of the living, imagine the sweet and varied forms of food, its sensuality, its attraction, all of a sudden transformed, into the most foul of substances, to be avoided on all counts. How odd? We pass through nature as nature passes through us, in a process the over civilized apes turn away from, as the grotesque.

The living undergo rot, just as the persimmon does, as a rite of replication. When all rot is bathed in desire, it is not what it is.

Whereas you humans once attempted to reconcile this fact (that life feeds on life), it is no longer made aware among the many with time and respect. All your actions are the brainless mechanics of a voracious aggregate worm, woven of worms, consuming the world into scat.

You'd be right to reverse this grandiose progression in the following manner: All that you desire is shit and the product of such desire, in replication, are the seeds of that desire stretched out through time, the future and beyond.

Death shrouds you, and the world, in shit. All becomes shit, and so is shit the grand universal becoming."
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Posted 07/12/10 - 4:03 AM:

Lay Carter, the cracked literary scholar of Gomun:

"A voice outside of the hierarchy imposed means a sudden moment to be passed over in casual discussion, and thus shown to be for its size effectless upon the power and political direction of our leadership. Yes, there are millions of the soul's space who cannot succeed to the needed magnifications of voice and power of mandate embodied by the council, in their ignoble solidity.

Yet,

In any zealot trails the potentiality of a military force. Every man and woman carries the shadow of the state, that may hide a seed of revolution, infecting the masses with suicidal ideations.
Let the revolutions carry on in the cognitive surplus landscapes of the masses. The state secures the opiate of the masses: freedom within its free landscapes. Nothing could be so banal and yet desirable.

I speak from a venue of normative neutrality: People are states, empowered with a unity of direction within, or shattered by pulls of competitive factions. Hierarchies are different in every state, mere channels of organs in exchange, with or without the regulations of parity.

Unequal exchanges that constitute mutualisms of today, thrive!"



Edited by Nihil Loc on 07/12/10 - 4:08 AM
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Posted 07/20/10 - 1:17 PM:

to Lay Carter, the cracked literary scholar of Gomun: hear hear.

to Ruzen, the It: would mogobo's approach to dung be considered more zen among his contemporaries?
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Posted 07/20/10 - 4:34 PM:

lib wrote:
to Ruzen, the It: would mogobo's approach to dung be considered more zen among his contemporaries?


Ruzen:

"My sweet lady, we must deign to ask the professor himself."

Mogobo:

"As a member of the body of agency, we advance a more positive metaphysics that helps to affirm this fact of ontology brought up by Ruzen: life feeds on life. In every act of taking, we strive for awareness, right conduct and reciprocity. We try to minimize suffering in all acts.

In these difficult times it is no wonder that the more negative radical ideals, Ruzen's nihilism, proliferate so easily. When the self-value of the agent implodes, wherein there is nothing to be seen worth saving, the body becomes reckless and violent. It can wreak havoc on the lives of others for no good reason.

I suspect Ruzen understands this. His own suffering infects his metaphysical attitude toward life.

Ruzen, our history shows, your bark is far worse than your bite."





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Posted 07/29/10 - 4:49 PM:

Mogobo wrote:
I suspect Ruzen understands this. His own suffering infects his metaphysical attitude toward life.

knowing is half the battle, so says the famous american soldier, g.i. joe.

i hope ruzen may find some respite from his suffering. sad

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Posted 07/30/10 - 5:18 PM:

lib wrote:
i hope ruzen may find some respite from his suffering.


Ruzen speaks:

"The best respite is found in proportion to the gratuitous and random damage of the explosive star, my lady.

Wherefore go the foundations of the abiding, peaceful interior dwelling soul, when the inner temple topples in upon the spirit, so may gravity explode our star outwards, destroying indiscriminately and outwardly, to pretend respite.

With the death of the interior, so dies the binding powers of its introversion (its sentience) and so dies the cultural cages of law and its sweet offering of respite. The animal romps with blood rage and berserk as its new ecstasy.

The will of Thanatos flowers in the fertile bodies of the corpse, just like Mogobo thrives upon heaps of dung."
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Posted 08/01/10 - 12:39 AM:

Mogobo speaks:

"What Ruzen is trying to say in his very flowery language is a mundane and painful truth: when there is nothing to lose, wherein the loss of one's life is no longer perceived as a loss, then a person may transgress the bonds that typically make us human. We are capable of the most horrific kinds of absurdity.

My belief is that Ruzen is warped by his inability to deal with this truth. He'd rather not believe it and so it festers like a disease in his mind."
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Posted 08/01/10 - 5:40 PM:

Ruzen wrote:
Wherefore go the foundations of the abiding, peaceful interior dwelling soul, when the inner temple topples in upon the spirit, so may gravity explode our star outwards, destroying indiscriminately and outwardly, to pretend respite.

With the death of the interior, so dies the binding powers of its introversion (its sentience) and so dies the cultural cages of law and its sweet offering of respite. The animal romps with blood rage and berserk as its new ecstasy.

aptly spoken dear ruzen.

it's a double-sided coin, this, everything, everywhere. but where do we subsist, where do we adhere, and do we? these are the questions we can't help but answer, i think, even we if stoop not to ask.

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What Ruzen is trying to say in his very flowery language is a mundane and painful truth: when there is nothing to lose, wherein the loss of one's life is no longer perceived as a loss, then a person may transgress the bonds that typically make us human. We are capable of the most horrific kinds of absurdity.

indeed, the most inspiring as well, i must add. it's an odd game this life, everyone must play or die.

who wins?
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Posted 08/09/10 - 4:51 PM:

more questions for our esteemed guests:

ruzen, to what do you feel most attached?

and mogobo, if i may ask the same of you?

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Posted 08/10/10 - 10:26 PM:

[please note, thinker's posts and resulting discussions about death have been moved to another thread]
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Posted 08/12/10 - 12:26 AM:

lib wrote:
ruzen, to what do you feel most attached?


Ruzen:

Seldom will you find an honest answer to this question but such an answer goes unneeded. I am attached in general to the constructs of our all too human domain, as anyone. Specificity is a meaningless luxury.

Though they accuse me of being a fractured spirit, a voice lost in a body, lacking the autonomous symmetries of the free moving. Thus I'm imprisoned in an image of determinism, of instinct, of the tics of a perennial mindless botany. They would mistake my voice for a dead recording, a textual track, a set of paragraphs, hidden away until some listener uncovers me and speaks me.

My attachment is about dream of what is absent in me, the fulfillment of totality, of balance. I founder for the breath of my annihilation. I dream the dreams of my host.

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and mogobo, if i may ask the same of you?


Mogobo:

I'm attached to my work mostly, the privilege of advising a young man, of filtering the and organizing the voices of the his soul's abode before they become unsuitable persuasions.

The human idea of the insect emphasizes the lock and key adaptations of the animal. I've been endowed with humanity (knowledge of human things) so my attachments bend humanely. I cease to remain a real insect.
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Posted 08/12/10 - 5:11 AM:

Mogobo, would you agree with zen master Ummon that the Buddha is dried dung, or would you say that the Buddha is more likely to be found in fresh, wet, steaming dung?
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Monk wrote:
Mogobo, would you agree with zen master Ummon that the Buddha is dried dung, or would you say that the Buddha is more likely to be found in fresh, wet, steaming dung?


Mogobo:

My own preference is for wet, not quite steaming, dung. It is malleable and draws the attention of all kinds of secondary consumers (snacks).

There are students and faculty at UDR who thrive on the manifold doctrines of Buddha as I thrive on types and gradations of dung. They know much more than I about the subtleties of their interest.

To take a roll at it, as to what kind of dung does the Buddha abide in, I'd say it doesn't matter, whether dried or wet. Whereas dung holds the primary connotation for your hygienic species of homo erectus: treat the attachment to your conceptions of Buddha as you treat your own dung, or be honest as to the limits of the value one's Buddha practice generates.

The question is to set the inquirer against himself and his own ideas of where the Buddha resides, by doctrine, by contemporary local interpretations, by the zealous orders of a pompous parading self.

Buddha is tough to digest. I'd rather roll some well digested and excreted dung.
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Posted 08/15/10 - 12:52 AM:

Gnosnic, the garden gnome alchemist:

"We grow giants and minis, minty, skunky and the acidic. The glow and purple haze in our subterranean topiary, garden center and gift shop, with the floral notes of mycelium encrusted leaf litter, is to pass out in (to spin a pot top on a mush cap).

Nothing beats the treats and sweet meats of gnomic alchemy, that diminish and engorge the strange little creatures of the interior. A puff puff may possess the monkey village chieftain to parade around as king for a day. Doubtless all the furniture will be shuffled around.

We've a new strain called Black Dragon Feng Shui which is all about furniture shuffling. It animates your favorite chair, ornament, door way, or what have you, which then takes on the voice of aesthetic revision. Take heed, or you'll miss the furniture hopping Black Dragon as it slips out of your lungs and into the Boudoir."
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Posted 08/17/10 - 12:06 PM:

gnostic gnosnic, have you found the black dragon to be addicting?
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