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Posted 09/08/09 - 11:00 AM:

Both of you analysts share your birthdayssticking out tongue.


'Happy Birthday', in advance,to both of you!smiling face



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Posted 09/08/09 - 2:12 PM:

Thinker13 wrote:
Both of you analysts share your birthdays.


You're right! How coincidental... But how do you know my birthday?

Thinker13 wrote:
'Happy Birthday', in advance,to both of you!


Thanks! But when is your birthday?



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Posted 09/09/09 - 10:34 AM:

Nihil Loc wrote:


You're right! How coincidental... But how do you know my birthday?



Paul's.



Thanks! But when is your birthday?






Welcome. PMed.



Thank you.
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Posted 09/09/09 - 2:52 PM:

Liberty, Nihil...

I've considered what's relevant to me in your posts above.

I suggest, if you like, you go back and read all my posts within this forum. There aren't many, as compared to some, and you would find my refutations to your above posts snuggled in the midst of those little bits.

I don't imagine you will...*shrug*

And: the two specific 'charges' I though might have merit…

'you may say that you don't care if they do or don't, but if you claim that you don't, I would suggest that your complaints betray otherwise'

'You speak of better kinds of evidence but there is the impression that no good reason coupled with insight into the human condition would make a difference to you.'

…hogwash, on both counts.

Again: the specifics of my refutation of both can be found throughout all my posts within this forum.

Specifically: Liberty, I 'care' about the discussion, the debate, or, is this place simply another tiresome 'social networking' forum masquerading as a philosophy forum?

Nihil, you haven't offered any 'good reason coupled with insight into the human condition', so...*shrug*
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Posted 09/09/09 - 10:28 PM:

henry quirk wrote:
Specifically: Liberty, I 'care' about the discussion, the debate, or, is this place simply another tiresome 'social networking' forum masquerading as a philosophy forum?

call it what you like. if you think it's the latter, i can't think of why you'd want to stick around, except maybe to pick fights with people. if that's the case, you will quickly wear out your welcome here.

it's kind of hard to have a debate without other people. if you think you don't need people, then maybe you don't need debate either. if you care about debate, then maybe you should care about people as well. unless your idea of having a debate is about trading insults, i invite you to post the kind of profound, thought-provoking topics which will stimulate the kind of debate you're looking for.
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Posted 09/10/09 - 8:55 AM:

"if you think you don't need people, then maybe you don't need debate either"

Wanting debate is not synonymous with needing debate.

Wanting interactions with people is not synonymous with needing interactions with people.
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Posted 09/10/09 - 2:24 PM:

quirk wrote:
Nihil, you haven't offered any 'good reason coupled with insight into the human condition', so...*shrug*


That makes two of us. thumb up Perhaps men like us don't offer much good reason.

Tell us which of your numbered posts you'd like us to address.
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Posted 09/10/09 - 4:46 PM:

"That makes two of us. Perhaps men like us don't offer much good reason."

Maybe... wink

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"Tell us which of your numbered posts you'd like us to address."

Rather than wade through 'myself': I've taken Liberty's challenge, 'i invite you to post the kind of profound, thought-provoking topics which will stimulate the kind of debate you're looking for.', and over the next few weeks plan a series of interlocking topics/threads I hope satisfy everyone on some level.

The first of those threads, 'Does the individual owe society/does society owe the individual', while a relatively mild beginning, IS the beginning.

When done: I hope to have offered -- in a civil, coherent, manner -- 'good reason coupled with insight into the human condition'.

I’ll be entertaining a guest from Ohio for the next few days, so, I leave you with the beginning from which I'll 'jump' next week...
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Posted 09/11/09 - 1:28 AM:

henry quirk wrote:
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Wanting interactions with people is not synonymous with needing interactions with people.



Agreed.
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Posted 09/11/09 - 1:29 AM:

henry quirk wrote:




Rather than wade through 'myself': I've taken Liberty's challenge, 'i invite you to post the kind of profound, thought-provoking topics which will stimulate the kind of debate you're looking for.', and over the next few weeks plan a series of interlocking topics/threads I hope satisfy everyone on some level.

The first of those threads, 'Does the individual owe society/does society owe the individual', while a relatively mild beginning, IS the beginning.


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I’ll be entertaining a guest from Ohio for the next few days, so, I leave you with the beginning from which I'll 'jump' next week...


Birthday guest! Have some fun Henrythumb up




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Posted 09/11/09 - 10:14 PM:

henry quirk wrote:
Wanting interactions with people is not synonymous with needing interactions with people.

Thinker13 wrote:
Agreed.

my point is this: a person may not need a car, but if he wants one, he should think about figuring out how to pay for it.
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Posted 09/12/09 - 1:55 AM:

libertygrl wrote:


my point is this: a person may not need a car, but if he wants one, he should think about figuring out how to pay for it.


Indeed. Perspicuously so.
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Posted 09/18/09 - 10:55 AM:

Not to beat a dead horse, but...


"you've expressed clearly that you are only interested in taking and not giving..."

Where in this forum did I clearly express such a thing?

I harp on 'choice', not greed; on agency, not caprice; on autonomy, not tyranny.

Within the context of my life (which Nihil, were he a good interviewer, could have uncovered) I've chosen to forgo pleasures and comforts and gain so as to preserve my nephew from his shrew, criminal, mother.

It's a boring tale, which I'll relay should anyone have an interest.


Again: can you, Liberty, point to any posts of mine which, in context, clearly express I'm only interested in 'taking and not giving'?
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Posted 09/18/09 - 1:02 PM:

henry quirk wrote:
"you've expressed clearly that you are only interested in taking and not giving..."

Where in this forum did I clearly express such a thing?

www.thecouchforum.com/comme...8&findpost=16134#post16134

quirk wrote:
I have a reputation as a selfish, lying, cheating, bastard to maintain, so, let me further say this...

lying and cheating don't conjure in my mind the idea of someone who is interested in fair trade. if you meant to convey some other impression of yourself, please feel free to elucidate. i will stand corrected.
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Posted 09/18/09 - 1:26 PM:

So: because I wrote, 'I have a REPUTATION as a selfish, lying, cheating, bastard...' you deduce I'm only interested in 'taking and not giving'.

Interesting.

The moral: I need to remain aware that some folks I deal with here are willing to dis-embed a single comment from a single, dis-embedded, post and use that single comment as an indictment of the whole of 'me'.

It seems I'm in the minority in trying to keep any one participant's posts within the context of the participant's history of posting.

This is why, up-thread, I encouraged 'read(ing) all my posts within this forum'. There aren't many as compared to some, and, those posts, as a whole, give a fuller view of 'me' than any single post can. Certainly: while I haven't the time to read all of everyone's posting history, I do make the effort. For one: it allows me access to a fuller view of the other, and, for another, 'knowing' one's enemy is always a good thing...

Anyway: thanks, Liberty...you answered my questions, and, (if we're going on single posts) then, yes, you're right.

My apologies... wink
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Posted 09/18/09 - 1:44 PM:

henry quirk wrote:
I need to remain aware that some folks I deal with here are willing to dis-embed a single comment from a single, dis-embedded, post and use that single comment as an indictment of the whole of 'me'.

as i said, feel free to set the record straight, which you failed to either do or acknowledge. furthermore, what you had said was that you have a reputation to maintain, so either you're actually a lying, cheating bastard, or else it's just a front. either way, i'm done discussing things with you quirk. go pick a fight somewhere else.
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Posted 09/18/09 - 2:07 PM:

Cheer up Quirk.

Life is a can of peaches. Once broken into it is nauseatingly sweet and has a delicate sluggy texture.
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Posted 09/18/09 - 3:05 PM:

*sigh*

as you will and like, liberty.

My point, laid bare: Even a lying, cheating, bastard can 'give' if he chooses.

*shrug*

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"Cheer up Quirk"

HA!

I'm betting I'm cheerier than most of you, most of the time.

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"Life is a can of peaches"

I prefer 'life' as steak...rare. ;

Edited by henry quirk on 09/18/09 - 3:11 PM
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Posted 09/18/09 - 3:15 PM:

henry quirk wrote:
*sigh*

as you will and like, liberty.

My point, laid bare: Even a lying, cheating, bastard can 'give' if he chooses.

fair enough.
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Posted 09/18/09 - 4:24 PM:

HA!

If I'd just said, 'Even a lying, cheating, bastard can 'give' if he chooses.', I could've avoided your ire from the start.

I must remember: aphorism, yes; dissection, no.

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Posted 09/18/09 - 4:48 PM:

yes, please avoid unfair and inaccurate dissections. aphorisms, when they're true: thumb up
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Posted 09/18/09 - 4:51 PM:

My dissections, as useless as they may be, are never 'unfair and inaccurate'...just unpalatable.
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Posted 09/18/09 - 4:58 PM:

well, a person who imagines himself incapable of ever being wrong is not someone i'm interested in conversing with. take care henry, i hope you and your shrugs find what you're looking for.
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Posted 09/19/09 - 10:02 AM:

HA!

I'm wrong all the time! On a great many things! I'm also right a great deal of the time on great many things.

In this: I’m just everyone else... wink

There is a difference, however, between the faulty premise and faulty reasoning. I may guilty of moving forward from the faulty premise from time to time. I think I'm rarely guilty of faulty reasoning based on that premise.

See the difference?


Anyhow...


Liberty: it's fine if you don't wanna talk or debate with me.

All you have to do is stop responding...
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Posted 09/19/09 - 10:17 AM:

henry wrote:
All you have to do is stop responding...

yes, i'm aware of that, thanks for the tip. i don't mind talking with you henry, when i think you're being fair. obviously i think you're capable of that, otherwise i would have stopped responding to this thread a long time ago. if you think your dissections are never wrong, then you're wrong. if you think you haven't been unfair at all in this thread, then i don't have anything more to say to you.
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