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Monk2400
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Posted 08/29/09 - 1:47 PM:
Subject: Executive Office Control of the Internet?
Check out this. G-damn Rockefellers AGAIN. These guys won't be satisfied until the whole world is in the palm of their hand.



http://www.infowars.com/bill-would-give-president-emergency-control-of-internet/

Internet companies and civil liberties groups were alarmed this spring when a U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.

They’re not much happier about a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors. CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft of S.773 ( excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency.

The new version would allow the president to “declare a cybersecurity emergency” relating to “non-governmental” computer networks and do what’s necessary to respond to the threat. Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification program for “cybersecurity professionals,” and a requirement that certain computer systems and networks in the private sector be managed by people who have been awarded that license.


And here, from the mouth of Satan himself, watch it before 'they' censor it:

Rockefeller on the S.773 bill


The ultimate joke is that 'cyber terrorism' is completely avoidable. Why are there 'sensitive' systems that relate to 'national security' set up on publicly hackable networks anyway? Why are these things not entirely self-contained? Not only that, but there is NO threat, not even a possible threat, that can impact the lives of people through the internet itself. Because after all, this is nothing but information--text and images, pixels lighting up. There is absolutely no need for any 'authority' to 'control' this information or to have the power to 'shut it down' or limit people's access to it.

Cyberterrorism is bullshit. Its made possible by the same people who brought you Antivirus to deal with the viruses they created to boostrap themselves into an industry (cf. The Underground Myth).

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Posted 08/29/09 - 3:13 PM:

Monk2400 wrote:
The ultimate joke is that 'cyber terrorism' is completely avoidable. Why are there 'sensitive' systems that relate to 'national security' set up on publicly hackable networks anyway? Why are these things not entirely self-contained? Not only that, but there is NO threat, not even a possible threat, that can impact the lives of people through the internet itself.



What is 'cyber-security'?


Because after all, this is nothing but information--text and images, pixels lighting up. There is absolutely no need for any 'authority' to 'control' this information or to have the power to 'shut it down' or limit people's access to it.


I do not agree.




Cyberterrorism is bullshit. Its made possible by the same people who brought you Antivirus to deal with the viruses they created to boostrap themselves into an industry.
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Is it so?


Probably the most controversial language begins in Section 201, which permits the president to "direct the national response to the cyber threat" if necessary for "the national defense and security." The White House is supposed to engage in "periodic mapping" of private networks deemed to be critical, and those companies "shall share" requested information with the federal government. ("Cyber" is defined as anything having to do with the Internet, telecommunications, computers, or computer networks.)



Jena Longo wrote:
The president of the United States has always had the constitutional authority, and duty, to protect the American people and direct the national response to any emergency that threatens the security and safety of the United States. The Rockefeller-Snowe Cybersecurity bill makes it clear that the president's authority includes securing our national cyber infrastructure from attack. The section of the bill that addresses this issue, applies specifically to the national response to a severe attack or natural disaster. This particular legislative language is based on longstanding statutory authorities for wartime use of communications networks. To be very clear, the Rockefeller-Snowe bill will not empower a "government shutdown or takeover of the Internet" and any suggestion otherwise is misleading and false. The purpose of this language is to clarify how the president directs the public-private response to a crisis, secure our economy and safeguard our financial networks, protect the American people, their privacy and civil liberties, and coordinate the government's response.




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Posted 08/31/09 - 11:29 AM:

Thinker13 wrote:

I do not agree.


So you believe that there is absolutely a need for some 'authority' to 'control' this information [the Internet] or to have the power to 'shut it down' or limit people's access to it?

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Posted 08/31/09 - 2:23 PM:

On the Internet, anyone can make an unreality. The Authority lose their monopoly on it. Even "some kid in Latvia" can make an unreal world!

"It's an act, just an act. It's an individual act... but which can shut down anything we have to offer... paper. It is an awesome problem!"


Quotes from E. Rockefeller.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct9xzXUQLuY

They are afraid. No fear.

Edited by Nancy Drew on 08/31/09 - 2:32 PM
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Posted 08/31/09 - 3:14 PM:

Nancy Drew wrote:

anyone can make an unreality.


Were it only so easy!

Fact is, to give your unreality the power of social consensus, you need mass media, the gates of which are by and large controlled by the PTB and big money interests, who enjoy the ability to create information to fill in gaps where no information, factually, exists.

Even though once online we have the ability to paint a pretty picture, getting there is not something that your grandma can do in her kitchen. You are dependent on a host of charlatans grabbing your money, not the least of which are the ISPs who may or may not directly trying to monitor and 'shape' your online activities.

I think it's time to switch to carrier pigeons to relay information. Cause when they're done their flying days, you can eat the evidence.


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paper. It is an awesome problem!"


Indeed it is. The source of all persistent unrealities. Give people the printing press and what do they do first? Print mythology! Then propaganda.

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Posted 09/02/09 - 4:27 AM:

Monk2400 wrote:


So you believe that there is absolutely a need for some 'authority' to 'control' this information [the Internet] or to have the power to 'shut it down' or limit people's access to it?

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Not really. My objection was regarding your comment on the 'harmlessness of information' in each and every case.



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Posted 09/02/09 - 4:32 AM:

Monk2400 wrote:


Were it only so easy!

Fact is, to give your unreality the power of social consensus, you need mass media, the gates of which are by and large controlled by the PTB and big money interests, who enjoy the ability to create information to fill in gaps where no information, factually, exists.


Agreed.





I think it's time to switch to carrier pigeons to relay information. Cause when they're done their flying days, you can eat the evidence.


Vegans anyone.laughing




Indeed it is. The source of all persistent unrealities. Give people the printing press and what do they do first? Print mythology! Then propaganda.

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Mythology and propaganda are not dependent on printing though. Besides
there is a whole lot of other stuffs,to be printed,which is not 'unreal'.




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Posted 09/02/09 - 11:23 AM:

'Information' is always value-neutral. It is neither harmful nor harmless. Its uses are what determine harm or help, which again, means that harm or help stems directly from agency, and not any other source. Information is a tool of agency.

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Mythology and propaganda are not dependent on printing though.


Never said they were. My comment was more in the way of irony, noting the quite truthful statement that once humans were given the freedom of press (in the west at least), they immediately started printing bibles. The neutral technology was co-opted by a religious force to serve its self-promotion.
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Posted 09/03/09 - 3:11 AM:

Monk2400 wrote:
'Information' is always value-neutral. It is neither harmful nor harmless. Its uses are what determine harm or help, which again, means that harm or help stems directly from agency, and not any other source. Information is a tool of agency.


Indeed.




Never said they were. My comment was more in the way of irony, noting the quite truthful statement that once humans were given the freedom of press (in the west at least), they immediately started printing bibles. The neutral technology was co-opted by a religious force to serve its self-promotion.



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