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Thinker13
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Posted 06/18/09 - 10:11 PM:
Subject: Illuminati/Global Elite/Reptilian Humanoids
Just curious to know:

How many of Couchians believe in the existence of:

Illuminati/Global Elite/Reptilian Humanoids/Zionists?

Do you support theories and claims of David Icke and company?





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Nihil Loc
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Posted 06/18/09 - 10:48 PM:

I think some symbols get charged with such an emotional affect that they can't help but intrude a person's sense of reality -- it's a paranoia that may or may not be usefully channeled.

I don't believe in these things as fact but rather as projected fictions of the psyche.

Wait... I'll consider the Global Elite. Bill Moyers was interviewing a guest who wrote a book about the overall impact of our current era of Supercapitalism and the excessive concentration of wealth in %1 of the financial elite. Government is in bed with industry lobbyists, and this is scary as far as health care reform goes. There are always people who have power, hidden or not. The socioeconomic dynamics of the Capitalist machine are way over my head.
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Posted 06/19/09 - 8:25 AM:

"Illuminati/Global Elite/Reptilian Humanoids/Zionists?"

No, no, no, and, no.

There 'is' a war going on, but the war is fundamentally the individual versus the world.

Are there 'conspiracies' at play?

Sure!

But not a one of these conspiracies is anything but an echo of the war between the 'one' and the 'many'.
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Posted 06/19/09 - 10:59 AM:

Yes, yes, yes, and yes. It's not a matter of belief, but of looking at the facts.

Well, reptilians, ok, belief, because the physical evidence is sparse. And the theory works if reptilians are either 'real' or merely 'symbolic'.

But is there an illuminati? Of course, we know exactly when it was creaed.

Is there a global elite? Of course, their fingerprints are all over the place, and they revel in constantly referring to themselves or the concept of themselves, even as the true members stay in the shadows.

Are there Zionists? Anyone who seriously doubts this needs to get their head examined and start reading history and current world events. This is a fact, fact, fact. America is Israel's bitch. And so is Canada, I hate to say. And Israel is run by Zionists. And note, Zionists are not 'hebrews', nor is being anti-Zionist being 'anti-semitic', as the most fervent Zionists are actually Ashkenazi Jews, ie, Europeans--descendents of converts, and not 'ethnically' semitic at all. Being anti-Zionist is anti-NWO.

I can't speak to David Icke, as I haven't read his stuff. However, he does inspire a lot of people to start looking at things with a broader perspective and open mind.

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Posted 06/19/09 - 11:20 AM:

Well, yeah, three of the four have a substance to them, but, again, those three are nothing more than echoes of the fundamental struggle we each, as individuals, are mired in, that being the one begun when the some proto-human said (for the first time) 'no' (or the grunt equivalent of 'no') to the reigning Alpha male.

As for the fourth: pure fiction, an idea, a belief. But: as we all know, fictions, ideas, and beliefs can lead to some goddamned strange and awful realities (for example: several thousand dead 'cause some sought Allah's grace, or, reality caused by chasing fiction).
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Posted 06/21/09 - 11:47 PM:

David Icke is a paradox.

2 hour interview of David Icke

After watching well into the above video about Icke, I find some of what he says compelling. His surreal break with reality has given him what seems to me an intense moral lesson (a vision of suffering and its cause). But does he apply it?

The strange thing is that Icke contradicts himself often. The man with the Dundee hat clarifies Icke's problem with an excellent point in the video, about the near hopelessness of conveying what Icke has learned (if anything morally valuable). One should ask about the dangers of Icke's theories if they are so easily misinterpreted, as them seem to flit between the symbolic (Lizard men) and debatable facts.

The harm comes in how we approach him and what parties he excites to action, if any. Otherwise we are left with what the Buddha might think is best: a nice juicy nothing.





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Posted 12/21/11 - 12:14 AM:

Even after more than 2.5 years since the question was posed, I find Monk2400's answer so convincing. I miss you Monk2400! Come back soon.
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Posted 12/21/11 - 11:32 AM:

I'm not sure how many of our posters have a strong interest for this subject, but our viewers most certainly do ! Look at the immense view count on this thread, compared to the amount of posts. sticking out tongue Anyway, maybe it's just because it's such an old thread. lolz. smiling face

I'm not on monk's side on this one, though. I think verifiable facts are very hard to come by for these things. smiling face
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Posted 12/21/11 - 12:55 PM:

smokinpristiformis wrote:
I'm not sure how many of our posters have a strong interest for this subject, but our viewers most certainly do ! Look at the immense view count on this thread, compared to the amount of posts. sticking out tongue Anyway, maybe it's just because it's such an old thread. lolz. smiling face

I'm not on monk's side on this one, though. I think verifiable facts are very hard to come by for these things. smiling face



It's an old thread indeed, though,for certain factions like Illuminati, Freemasons, Bilderbergs; there are verifiable facts. The extent to which the course of events has been controlled in the history of world by such groups is however a subject for exploration and speculation.

I have very recently read and watched a few videos by a journalist Benjamin Fulford, who is the former Asian Pacific bureau chief for Forbes magazine and stays in Japan and he claims that he is in touch with a Chinese secret society which is secretly fighting against Illuminati.


Whether these things are true or false, one thing is sure, I have found a radical shift in the way I look at history--be it history of a nation or be it history of a particular person. When it comes to the history of nations and historical figures, my reverence has gradually decreased and virtually vanished as I have grown up.

What do you think, Willem, about your country's history or the way you look at the history of world? Has it stayed the way it was, say, before graduation?

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